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Old 07-26-2012, 07:09 PM   #1
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replacing an old BMW bag latch

These are the bags I have recently acquired:


and because of a latch, it recently found itself resting roadside:


I have realized in researching that there should be some sort of sticky rubber here:

I have been reading this info: http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/locks-caps-etc.htm


My questions:

1) Are these bags properly called 'BMW Touring Bags?'
2) Should I replace the flat lock with the 'tublar lock'
3) This seems like an easy fix(just replacing the latch), is it?
4) Should I have some rubber on the bags where they attach to the mount. (running a reynolds rack).


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Old 07-26-2012, 08:04 PM   #2
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Your pictures are not showing for me. It sounds to me like you have the Krauser bags. The latches on them are notorious for failing or popping free, leaving your luggage behind. The latches basicly look like a poor version of a seatbelt latch. But do not hold up to the bouncing and jarring on a bike. The bags themselves are great, but the latches are a weak link in the system.

The majority of us that have those bags will use some sort of strap or bungee cord to secure them to the frame.

Myself, I found a deal on some later bags that use a claw like attachment and it was a simple process to remove the seatbelt tab from my frames and the claw attachment works fine for me. Some people have had issues with this, depending on the mounting frames they have.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:39 PM   #3
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Do your bags have "draw latches" which open at right angles to the bags, or do they have latches that open parallel to the bags?

The type which open at right angles, by pulling upward and out away from the bike are the type which take the newer "cylinder" locks.
Those can be purchased in sets of 6 (four to lock the bags closed, and two to attach the bags to the bike), all keyed the same. It costs about $250 for a complete set including locks and keys.

It's the best money you can spend on those bags. They can be ordered from any BMW dealer.
If your bags look like these, take them off and throw them away.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:43 PM   #4
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Your pictures are not showing for me. It sounds to me like you have the Krauser bags. The latches on them are notorious for failing or popping free, leaving your luggage behind. The latches basicly look like a poor version of a seatbelt latch. But do not hold up to the bouncing and jarring on a bike. The bags themselves are great, but the latches are a weak link in the system.

The majority of us that have those bags will use some sort of strap or bungee cord to secure them to the frame.

Myself, I found a deal on some later bags that use a claw like attachment and it was a simple process to remove the seatbelt tab from my frames and the claw attachment works fine for me. Some people have had issues with this, depending on the mounting frames they have.
That's known in the latch biz as a "draw latch". Which is the type I referred to above. I've never had those come open or fall off, whether locked or not.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:48 PM   #5
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This ebay sale is for the type I like. These have the old style locks which are a pain in the ass, but work adequately.
The problem is that the tumblers in the locks seem to flop around on their own, and you'll never be able to insert the key at night.
Plus, they're probably very easy to pick.

They're also the type that can be replaced with new locks from BMW. You have to specify the new type lock, because BMW still sells the old type locks for some reason.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:28 PM   #6
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Do your bags have "draw latches" which open at right angles to the bags, or do they have latches that open parallel to the bags?

The type which open at right angles, by pulling upward and out away from the bike are the type which take the newer "cylinder" locks.
Those can be purchased in sets of 6 (four to lock the bags closed, and two to attach the bags to the bike), all keyed the same. It costs about $250 for a complete set including locks and keys.

It's the best money you can spend on those bags. They can be ordered from any BMW dealer.
If your bags look like these, take them off and throw them away.
Buy the later style latches so you can key them to your ignition key and for now just replace the bag to mount latches. Caponerd - If your throwing away perfectly good Krausers I'll PM you my address
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:49 PM   #7
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Buy the later style latches so you can key them to your ignition key and for now just replace the bag to mount latches. Caponerd - If your throwing away perfectly good Krausers I'll PM you my address
Sorry, that was just some interweb hyperbole. If I had a pair of those I'd sell them to some unsuspecting suck... er... buyer on ebay.

I have never cared for those things. I can easily fit a full face helmet in the other style bags, those Krausers are pretty near useless for the commuting I do with my RT.
With the other type (what are those things called?) I can lock my helmet and gloves in one, and my Tourmaster jacket in the other, so I don't have to carry my gear to the office with me.
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:20 PM   #8
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Krausers ... Carries a carton ( 24 cans ) of beer easily ... but you have to carry one on each side for balance ... On many occasions I was the last to get there ... but the party didn't start until I arrived
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:00 PM   #9
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I added links to the pics. Forgot i shouldn't use flickr.

These bags fit a full face helmet in each and are amply sized. I love having them and would like to repair the one. Seems possible, but not sure. All questions still valid from first post.

Thanks for the input.
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