2013 mexican 1000 ktm 640 adv build - Page 2

640 Armageddon · 09-10-2012, 04:24 AM

Excellent choiCe ! I think the bike suits very well long distance rallys with very little modification. The downside is that after market parts have become rare these days, rally bash plates are difficult and very expensive to find

. Larger bash plates are rare as well and there is only Hyderacing (hard plastic - Europe) and bboffroad (Aluminium - Australia) and the price in these two are fine.

I would go and protect the tank and most importantly the fuel petcock with Chris Barnes's tank protectors, I have had two sets and the fist one go damaged but everything else survived the accident. Very good for off road riding, cheap and they come in aramid or CF. Now we are on the petcock thing, check for leakage in all positions. It should not drip but you never know...

I would check the voltage that reaches the front of the bike. This particular is not old, but the cables are not known for their good quality so you may loose a couple of volts between the battery and the lights. Now we are on the lights they are terrible. You dont understand it until you put either HIDs or LEDs. I had HIDs for most if the time and it is an easy mod to do. What you have to remember is to put silicone inside the ballasts to prevent them from self destryoing themselves from the offroad rides and falls. I went through three of them before doing so.

. The silicone trick should be applied into the bottom plastic part of the main switch. Usually in a rally bike you bypass the switch with a toggle or sth so that should not be a problem I think...

I guess the BRP chain block that the Baja Dad says is the aluminium chain guide. It is a KTM part but it was easier for me to find it through husaberg (I have an FE450 2oo5 model as well). It is a straight bolt on and the only problem that you will ever come acroos will be for it to take a massive hit and bend. Then you are in business

... You can modify it so you can take it out without having to break the chain, so that is a wise idea. Or you can carry a dremel tool with you

For the navigation equipment just make sure you put fuses for everything. Mounts for RB's can be found from KTM (they suck - full lock is prohibited

). Mecasystemes has stopped doing the one they had so you are on your own ... You may need to change the fairing back to the old version which was two parts. It is higher and you can modify it to be more vertical in order to accomodate the navigation equipment without interfering with the handlebars. As Baja Dad, more and more people have decided to make their own navigation towers, either for different or for this bike (and I am one of them as well

), but you can look here http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684282 and proceed accordingly if you feel adventurous...

If it does not have, try and find a sidestand that works. That is another challenge. KTM original does not fit straight away with the centre stand on, so it is either one or the other. Motec, does a side stand which will bolt on and allow you to keep both stands but it is a death trap and beleive me is can eat your legs for breakfast... For a rally bike I would prefer the side one only if I did not have another option ...

Keep us informed,

-o0-

Maineroot · 09-10-2012, 05:58 AM

Michael-

I'm pretty happy so far with just the carb swap (FCR MX 41mm). This bike now has some serious grunt and punch. I have 8 months to sit and stare at the bike before the race, so I'll probably end up doing the cam install.

The motor has less than 2500 miles on it. I do not think that it was ever off road-judging from the lack of dirt anywhere on the frame etc when I removed the tank. It's like new.

You suggested a water pump impeller rebuild- is this a regular maintenance thing- or an upgrade for faulty parts? With a bike this low miles- do you still suggest that mod?

Cheers-

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrk2surf

Dont forget one of these!! Like I said it will wake up the top end!

BTW How many miles ?

Maineroot · 09-10-2012, 06:09 AM

See below.

QUOTE=640 Armageddon;19559593]Excellent choiCe ! I think the bike suits very well long distance rallys with very little modification. The downside is that after market parts have become rare these days, rally bash plates are difficult and very expensive to find

. Larger bash plates are rare as well and there is only Hyderacing (hard plastic - Europe) and bboffroad (Aluminium - Australia) and the price in these two are fine.

The bike came with a full bash/skid plate.

I would go and protect the tank and most importantly the fuel petcock with Chris Barnes's tank protectors, I have had two sets and the fist one go damaged but everything else survived the accident. Very good for off road riding, cheap and they come in aramid or CF. Now we are on the petcock thing, check for leakage in all positions. It should not drip but you never know...

Petcocks look solid. no leaks. I'll have to check into the petcock protector. That looks like an accident waiting to happen. Kind of like the waitress I saw balancing a 5 gal bucket of ice water on the rail of the pool table this weekend at the bar. She did it 3 times successfully, then #4- there was a "pool" on the pool table.

I would check the voltage that reaches the front of the bike. This particular is not old, but the cables are not known for their good quality so you may loose a couple of volts between the battery and the lights. Now we are on the lights they are terrible. You dont understand it until you put either HIDs or LEDs. I had HIDs for most if the time and it is an easy mod to do. What you have to remember is to put silicone inside the ballasts to prevent them from self destryoing themselves from the offroad rides and falls. I went through three of them before doing so.

. The silicone trick should be applied into the bottom plastic part of the main switch. Usually in a rally bike you bypass the switch with a toggle or sth so that should not be a problem I think...

Lights and toggles are on the list now.

I guess the BRP chain block that the Baja Dad says is the aluminium chain guide. It is a KTM part but it was easier for me to find it through husaberg (I have an FE450 2oo5 model as well). It is a straight bolt on and the only problem that you will ever come acroos will be for it to take a massive hit and bend. Then you are in business

... You can modify it so you can take it out without having to break the chain, so that is a wise idea. Or you can carry a dremel tool with you

I'll put a BRP on to start.

For the navigation equipment just make sure you put fuses for everything. Mounts for RB's can be found from KTM (they suck - full lock is prohibited

). Mecasystemes has stopped doing the one they had so you are on your own ... You may need to change the fairing back to the old version which was two parts. It is higher and you can modify it to be more vertical in order to accomodate the navigation equipment without interfering with the handlebars. As Baja Dad, more and more people have decided to make their own navigation towers, either for different or for this bike (and I am one of them as well

), but you can look here http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684282 and proceed accordingly if you feel adventurous...

Baja Dad said he was making a mod to the stock KTM Roadbook holder. I'm going to see if I can come up with a HYBRID of what I found in the Rally Nav thread. There is already a mounting point on the steering stem, which seems like the biggest pain in the butt to fabricate.

If it does not have, try and find a sidestand that works. That is another challenge. KTM original does not fit straight away with the centre stand on, so it is either one or the other. Motec, does a side stand which will bolt on and allow you to keep both stands but it is a death trap and beleive me is can eat your legs for breakfast... For a rally bike I would prefer the side one only if I did not have another option ...

Aftermarket Sidestand is on the bike along with the center stand. The sidestand almost broke my shin when it came up unexpectedly! I was not wearing moto boots.

Keep us informed,

-o0-[/QUOTE]

640 Armageddon · 09-10-2012, 07:30 AM

Quote:

The bike came with a full bash/skid plate

You will see that the bash plate (I guess it dependes on the terrain) will not suffice. It is quite thin in my opinion for the bike and mine was destroyed early in its life... Too rocky terrain so I changed it with a heavy duty.

Quote:

She did it 3 times successfully, then #4- there was a "pool" on the pool table

Baja Dad said he was making a mod to the stock KTM Roadbook holder. I'm going to see if I can come up with a HYBRID of what I found in the Rally Nav thread. There is already a mounting point on the steering stem, which seems like the biggest pain in the butt to fabricate.

There are other options that you can modify the stock, there was on person who build his out of tube similat to what KTM has done but with bends so the handlebars do not hit it in full lock. He said he had the designs to share, I can look it up if you want something similar and sent him a pm. You will find that the pain in the ass (my ass at the moment and your ass in the future

) are the cables... At least in the 2oo5 midel there is a mess there... have no idea where to start clearing things up... I am almost ready to find the clippers and start

Quote:

Aftermarket Sidestand is on the bike along with the center stand. The sidestand almost broke my shin when it came up unexpectedly! I was not wearing moto boots

Now we are on the same table, let me warn you about another thing. If it is a motec (it hit you, so I guess that's the one

) there may be a problem. The side stand has to bolts. One for itself and one which it shares with the centre stand. This one is an accident waiting to happen. As the side stand gets loaded, it loads the centre stand bolt (which is welded on the centre stand) and it breaks it. This happened to me and then you are both without side and centrestand. There is a modification for the centre stand only (it sometimes happens even if you do not have the side stand) were you put through bolts with nuts but lets not go there at the moment, I just give you some warnings and when you see it closely you may come up with sth

In order to save you leg, please do use only one of the springs (the sidestand has two installed). It does the job and it does not give you the Muay Thai kick

-o0-

Maineroot · 09-10-2012, 08:27 AM

Has anyone installed a Scotts stabilizer on this year 640 ADV (2006)?

It looks like I'll need to not only buy the tower and riser for the mount- but a NEW TOP TRIPLE CLAMP as well?

Is there a way to get away with modifying the existing to make it work?

Baja Dad · 09-10-2012, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maineroot

Has anyone installed a Scotts stabilizer on this year 640 ADV (2006)?

It looks like I'll need to not only buy the tower and riser for the mount- but a NEW TOP TRIPLE CLAMP as well?

Is there a way to get away with modifying the existing to make it work?

Use a GPR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bolts on in about 20 min time
Works better !!!

Support those who support the racers !!!

Maineroot · 09-10-2012, 09:54 AM

I like gpr stuff.

Problem is that I have a Scott's damper already.

It might be cheaper to go the GPR route instead of having to buy a mount kit and triple clamp for the Scott's

QUOTE=Baja Dad;19560972]Use a GPR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bolts on in about 20 min time
Works better !!!

Support those who support the racers !!![/QUOTE]

640 Armageddon · 09-10-2012, 10:08 AM

The water pump service is good to do because you will be sure that everything is new there ... There is an oil seal to keep the oil apart from the water so if it fails it is a major prob ...

... Mine after 6o.ooo kms did not give up but it had markings on its shaft so before a major race I changed everything just to make sure ... It is not expensive to do anyways...

LukasM · 09-10-2012, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maineroot

Has anyone installed a Scotts stabilizer on this year 640 ADV (2006)?

It looks like I'll need to not only buy the tower and riser for the mount- but a NEW TOP TRIPLE CLAMP as well?

Is there a way to get away with modifying the existing to make it work?

Stenhouse Racing makes exactly the part that you need, the owner is an inmate here and a great guy as well:

http://stenhouseracing.com/shop/inde...&products_id=6

Good luck with the race!

Maineroot · 09-10-2012, 02:14 PM

Here is another pic of the bike.

Seat is getting sent off to SEAT CONCEPTS for the royal treatment. Suede top and a pocket in the front for the rally card.

Gregg Wannabe · 09-10-2012, 04:10 PM

Congrats on your decision, I'll see 'ya there. I'll be on my 570 'berg.

Aussie Steve · 09-11-2012, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maineroot

See below.

QUOTE=640 Armageddon;19559593]Excellent choiCe ! I think the bike suits very well long distance rallys with very little modification. The downside is that after market parts have become rare these days, rally bash plates are difficult and very expensive to find

. Larger bash plates are rare as well and there is only Hyderacing (hard plastic - Europe) and bboffroad (Aluminium - Australia) and the price in these two are fine.

Another better option which protects petcocks.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182094

Will help with this but the rally tank is a better idea to stop it.

640 Armageddon · 09-11-2012, 01:15 AM

The bash plates are much more expensive... Pete640 from Australia may be able to do a Carbon Fiber plate (he made a beautiful one for his own 640 ) and that would be cheaper than the aluminium one.

Chris's protectors have save me more than one times and they cost less than 100 pounds if I remember correctly ...

This was an aramid protector (Kevlar) and here is the link to the original post with a video of the accident

http://advrider.com/forums/attachmen...1&d=1306428151

Region Riley · 09-11-2012, 08:09 AM

Baja Dad · 09-11-2012, 08:37 AM

I will be having a few built for buddies The Dakar style Bash Plates with Tool box and with or with out Warter Container
Like the one below.
I should have a cost by next week.

09-10-2012, 06:09 AM	#18
Maineroot ^OP Adventurer Joined: May 2012 Location: Austin Texas Oddometer: 99	See below. QUOTE=640 Armageddon;19559593]Excellent choiCe ! I think the bike suits very well long distance rallys with very little modification. The downside is that after market parts have become rare these days, rally bash plates are difficult and very expensive to find . Larger bash plates are rare as well and there is only Hyderacing (hard plastic - Europe) and bboffroad (Aluminium - Australia) and the price in these two are fine. The bike came with a full bash/skid plate. I would go and protect the tank and most importantly the fuel petcock with Chris Barnes's tank protectors, I have had two sets and the fist one go damaged but everything else survived the accident. Very good for off road riding, cheap and they come in aramid or CF. Now we are on the petcock thing, check for leakage in all positions. It should not drip but you never know... Petcocks look solid. no leaks. I'll have to check into the petcock protector. That looks like an accident waiting to happen. Kind of like the waitress I saw balancing a 5 gal bucket of ice water on the rail of the pool table this weekend at the bar. She did it 3 times successfully, then #4- there was a "pool" on the pool table. I would check the voltage that reaches the front of the bike. This particular is not old, but the cables are not known for their good quality so you may loose a couple of volts between the battery and the lights. Now we are on the lights they are terrible. You dont understand it until you put either HIDs or LEDs. I had HIDs for most if the time and it is an easy mod to do. What you have to remember is to put silicone inside the ballasts to prevent them from self destryoing themselves from the offroad rides and falls. I went through three of them before doing so. . The silicone trick should be applied into the bottom plastic part of the main switch. Usually in a rally bike you bypass the switch with a toggle or sth so that should not be a problem I think... Lights and toggles are on the list now. I guess the BRP chain block that the Baja Dad says is the aluminium chain guide. It is a KTM part but it was easier for me to find it through husaberg (I have an FE450 2oo5 model as well). It is a straight bolt on and the only problem that you will ever come acroos will be for it to take a massive hit and bend. Then you are in business ... You can modify it so you can take it out without having to break the chain, so that is a wise idea. Or you can carry a dremel tool with you I'll put a BRP on to start. For the navigation equipment just make sure you put fuses for everything. Mounts for RB's can be found from KTM (they suck - full lock is prohibited ). Mecasystemes has stopped doing the one they had so you are on your own ... You may need to change the fairing back to the old version which was two parts. It is higher and you can modify it to be more vertical in order to accomodate the navigation equipment without interfering with the handlebars. As Baja Dad, more and more people have decided to make their own navigation towers, either for different or for this bike (and I am one of them as well ), but you can look here http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684282 and proceed accordingly if you feel adventurous... Baja Dad said he was making a mod to the stock KTM Roadbook holder. I'm going to see if I can come up with a HYBRID of what I found in the Rally Nav thread. There is already a mounting point on the steering stem, which seems like the biggest pain in the butt to fabricate. If it does not have, try and find a sidestand that works. That is another challenge. KTM original does not fit straight away with the centre stand on, so it is either one or the other. Motec, does a side stand which will bolt on and allow you to keep both stands but it is a death trap and beleive me is can eat your legs for breakfast... For a rally bike I would prefer the side one only if I did not have another option ... Aftermarket Sidestand is on the bike along with the center stand. The sidestand almost broke my shin when it came up unexpectedly! I was not wearing moto boots. Keep us informed, -o0-[/QUOTE] __________________ #34 MX1K TEAM GREENWOOD Maine Root Handcrafted Beverages, Darco Boot, ATOMIC MOTO, Klim Riding Gear, Flex Bars, Seat Concepts Seats, CJ DESIGNS PEGS, FORMA BOOTS, Tj's Cycle, Austin TX

09-10-2012, 08:27 AM	#20
Maineroot ^OP Adventurer Joined: May 2012 Location: Austin Texas Oddometer: 99	Stabilizer install Has anyone installed a Scotts stabilizer on this year 640 ADV (2006)? It looks like I'll need to not only buy the tower and riser for the mount- but a NEW TOP TRIPLE CLAMP as well? Is there a way to get away with modifying the existing to make it work? __________________ #34 MX1K TEAM GREENWOOD Maine Root Handcrafted Beverages, Darco Boot, ATOMIC MOTO, Klim Riding Gear, Flex Bars, Seat Concepts Seats, CJ DESIGNS PEGS, FORMA BOOTS, Tj's Cycle, Austin TX

09-10-2012, 09:54 AM	#22
Maineroot ^OP Adventurer Joined: May 2012 Location: Austin Texas Oddometer: 99	I like gpr stuff. Problem is that I have a Scott's damper already. It might be cheaper to go the GPR route instead of having to buy a mount kit and triple clamp for the Scott's QUOTE=Baja Dad;19560972]Use a GPR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bolts on in about 20 min time Works better !!! Support those who support the racers !!![/QUOTE] __________________ #34 MX1K TEAM GREENWOOD Maine Root Handcrafted Beverages, Darco Boot, ATOMIC MOTO, Klim Riding Gear, Flex Bars, Seat Concepts Seats, CJ DESIGNS PEGS, FORMA BOOTS, Tj's Cycle, Austin TX

09-10-2012, 02:14 PM	#25
Maineroot ^OP Adventurer Joined: May 2012 Location: Austin Texas Oddometer: 99	Here is another pic of the bike. Seat is getting sent off to SEAT CONCEPTS for the royal treatment. Suede top and a pocket in the front for the rally card. Attached Images __________________ #34 MX1K TEAM GREENWOOD Maine Root Handcrafted Beverages, Darco Boot, ATOMIC MOTO, Klim Riding Gear, Flex Bars, Seat Concepts Seats, CJ DESIGNS PEGS, FORMA BOOTS, Tj's Cycle, Austin TX

09-11-2012, 08:09 AM	#29
Region Riley rally kit widow Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Colorado Springs Oddometer: 3,231	__________________ Rally Moto Kit ///

09-10-2012, 04:24 AM	#16
640 Armageddon Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Greece Oddometer: 440	Excellent choiCe ! I think the bike suits very well long distance rallys with very little modification. The downside is that after market parts have become rare these days, rally bash plates are difficult and very expensive to find . Larger bash plates are rare as well and there is only Hyderacing (hard plastic - Europe) and bboffroad (Aluminium - Australia) and the price in these two are fine. I would go and protect the tank and most importantly the fuel petcock with Chris Barnes's tank protectors, I have had two sets and the fist one go damaged but everything else survived the accident. Very good for off road riding, cheap and they come in aramid or CF. Now we are on the petcock thing, check for leakage in all positions. It should not drip but you never know... I would check the voltage that reaches the front of the bike. This particular is not old, but the cables are not known for their good quality so you may loose a couple of volts between the battery and the lights. Now we are on the lights they are terrible. You dont understand it until you put either HIDs or LEDs. I had HIDs for most if the time and it is an easy mod to do. What you have to remember is to put silicone inside the ballasts to prevent them from self destryoing themselves from the offroad rides and falls. I went through three of them before doing so. . The silicone trick should be applied into the bottom plastic part of the main switch. Usually in a rally bike you bypass the switch with a toggle or sth so that should not be a problem I think... I guess the BRP chain block that the Baja Dad says is the aluminium chain guide. It is a KTM part but it was easier for me to find it through husaberg (I have an FE450 2oo5 model as well). It is a straight bolt on and the only problem that you will ever come acroos will be for it to take a massive hit and bend. Then you are in business ... You can modify it so you can take it out without having to break the chain, so that is a wise idea. Or you can carry a dremel tool with you For the navigation equipment just make sure you put fuses for everything. Mounts for RB's can be found from KTM (they suck - full lock is prohibited ). Mecasystemes has stopped doing the one they had so you are on your own ... You may need to change the fairing back to the old version which was two parts. It is higher and you can modify it to be more vertical in order to accomodate the navigation equipment without interfering with the handlebars. As Baja Dad, more and more people have decided to make their own navigation towers, either for different or for this bike (and I am one of them as well ), but you can look here http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684282 and proceed accordingly if you feel adventurous... If it does not have, try and find a sidestand that works. That is another challenge. KTM original does not fit straight away with the centre stand on, so it is either one or the other. Motec, does a side stand which will bolt on and allow you to keep both stands but it is a death trap and beleive me is can eat your legs for breakfast... For a rally bike I would prefer the side one only if I did not have another option ... Keep us informed, -o0-

09-10-2012, 10:08 AM	#23
640 Armageddon Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Greece Oddometer: 440	The water pump service is good to do because you will be sure that everything is new there ... There is an oil seal to keep the oil apart from the water so if it fails it is a major prob ... ... Mine after 6o.ooo kms did not give up but it had markings on its shaft so before a major race I changed everything just to make sure ... It is not expensive to do anyways...

09-10-2012, 04:10 PM	#26
Gregg Wannabe Just killing time Joined: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego Oddometer: 2,082	Congrats on your decision, I'll see 'ya there. I'll be on my 570 'berg.

09-11-2012, 01:15 AM	#28
640 Armageddon Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Greece Oddometer: 440	The bash plates are much more expensive... Pete640 from Australia may be able to do a Carbon Fiber plate (he made a beautiful one for his own 640 ) and that would be cheaper than the aluminium one. Chris's protectors have save me more than one times and they cost less than 100 pounds if I remember correctly ... This was an aramid protector (Kevlar) and here is the link to the original post with a video of the accident http://advrider.com/forums/attachmen...1&d=1306428151

09-11-2012, 08:37 AM	#30
Baja Dad Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Norco California Oddometer: 1,222	I will be having a few built for buddies The Dakar style Bash Plates with Tool box and with or with out Warter Container Like the one below. I should have a cost by next week. __________________ Thanks for the 2013 support:GPR Stablizers,Seat Concepts,Kriega.us, Precision Concepts, Acerbis, AME Grips,Rally Raid UK TLD, Klim,Oakley, Sidi-Motonation, Dunlop,ZLT Three Brothers Racing KTM,Multitool FOREST PLYWOOD SALES Baja Dad screwed with this post 09-11-2012 at 08:57 AM

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