Tiger Tragedy: Spark Plug Center and Side Electrode in Cylinder - Page 3

vtwin · 09-15-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Anorak

If it has run until it started missing, it is already damaged if it is. I've seen plenty of crap get into cylinders without doing more than leaving a punch of small nicks on the piston top and combustion chamber.

Run it with the plug out to forcibly blow anything out.

+1. Use a bore-scope, look for damage, locate magnet, removed if possible. When done, start engine without #2 plug and let it blow out other bits. Install new plug and ride.

Had a 280zx Turbo once. DPO had gutted turbo and installed nut, bolt and washer to block opening between intake and exhaust sides of turbo. Knocking noise in engine, nut fell off, plug beat up, left plug out, ran engine, bits flying out, knock gone. new plug and engine ran decent. Got rebuilt turbo cartridge, installed, car ran perfect.

Warney · 09-22-2012, 10:44 AM

Any updates?

Fe Man · 09-22-2012, 01:37 PM

Well, there is a bent intake valve(s)!

I am in the process of clearing out enough garage space to pull the motor and tear into it. I should get the motor out this weekend and maybe start to disassemble it. I can't find the electronic copy of the shop manual so I'm kind of easing into it.

Fe Man · 09-23-2012, 05:03 PM

Found a low mileage Daytona engine, any reason not to do it?

Daytona is 149hp vs 104 in the Tiger

bobnoxious67 · 09-24-2012, 05:34 AM

From a thread I read on Tigertriple, a gent swapped in a Daytona trans and his shift pattern was reversed (1 up-5 down)...Daytona uses a linkage shift that reverses the pattern back?

mustang · 09-24-2012, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fe Man

Found a low mileage Daytona engine, any reason not to do it?

Daytona is 149hp vs 104 in the Tiger

use the search function on tigertriple

use the keyword "daytona" lots to read

read metalguru's reply to your thread on tigertriple

you WILL lose that lovely flat torque curve of the tiger though, she'll be pretty touchy off road

Fe Man · 09-24-2012, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustang

use the search function on tigertriple

use the keyword "daytona" lots to read

read metalguru's reply to your thread on tigertriple

you WILL lose that lovely flat torque curve of the tiger though, she'll be pretty touchy off road

Thanks Mustang; I'm a little reluctant to jump on the Daytona motor. I'm really not in the appropriate mindset to go through the gyrations of a motor swap/graft. It also hard to image 149 hp in the dirt and gravel as the Kitty is a handful as she sits.
I planned on pulling the motor yesterday but spent in at the hospital with my dad....So, I still need to get the motor out and the head off.

Fe Man · 02-09-2013, 11:10 AM

Update, pic heavy

Fe Man · 02-09-2013, 11:47 AM

So there is at least one bent intake valve and minimal other damage; Ducky says stick in 4 new valves....

Going to flip the head and do a leak test as I would really like to replace as little as possible. It's interesting the differences in the cylinder carbon levels between cylinder three versus one and two. I think the number one plug was loose as well.

Anyhow, ordering parts Monday!

David R · 02-09-2013, 03:47 PM

A moment of silence for your loss of compression....

Looking good. New valves, a little lapping compound and away you go.

David

ADVMax · 02-09-2013, 04:03 PM

Say, I was just admiring the inside of your engine there.

The oil, what kind does she use?

Glad to see you digging in to it Chuck, really glad it's no worse than it looks. Hey? Wonder if a Hi-ABUSE-a engine'll fit in there?

pluric · 02-09-2013, 04:21 PM

I know I'm late to the party. A friend broke a plug off in his DR350. I had to drill it
out. I then used a gas line size hose duct taped to a shop vac to suck the the crap
out of the top end. I also would flush it with gas. Worked pretty good.
We didn't have to pop the head of and it's still running today.

09-22-2012, 01:37 PM	#33
Fe Man ^OP I am Iron Moran! Joined: May 2008 Location: Moran Nation Oddometer: 6,026	Well, there is a bent intake valve(s)! I am in the process of clearing out enough garage space to pull the motor and tear into it. I should get the motor out this weekend and maybe start to disassemble it. I can't find the electronic copy of the shop manual so I'm kind of easing into it. __________________ They called my son a "subversive" because he wrote a story about cutting all his teacher's heads off... 2006 Tiger 2008 KLR (hers)

09-23-2012, 05:03 PM	#34
Fe Man ^OP I am Iron Moran! Joined: May 2008 Location: Moran Nation Oddometer: 6,026	Found a low mileage Daytona engine, any reason not to do it? Daytona is 149hp vs 104 in the Tiger __________________ They called my son a "subversive" because he wrote a story about cutting all his teacher's heads off... 2006 Tiger 2008 KLR (hers)

09-24-2012, 05:34 AM	#35
bobnoxious67 Baby steps... Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Marion, MA Oddometer: 1,768	From a thread I read on Tigertriple, a gent swapped in a Daytona trans and his shift pattern was reversed (1 up-5 down)...Daytona uses a linkage shift that reverses the pattern back? __________________ "turn it on man, turn it on-whatever, whoever you are-TURN THE FAWKER ON!" -Herbert Foster Gunnison 01 Girlie 09 TE450

02-09-2013, 11:10 AM	#38
Fe Man ^OP I am Iron Moran! Joined: May 2008 Location: Moran Nation Oddometer: 6,026	Update, pic heavy __________________ They called my son a "subversive" because he wrote a story about cutting all his teacher's heads off... 2006 Tiger 2008 KLR (hers) Fe Man screwed with this post 02-09-2013 at 11:28 AM

02-09-2013, 11:47 AM	#39
Fe Man ^OP I am Iron Moran! Joined: May 2008 Location: Moran Nation Oddometer: 6,026	So there is at least one bent intake valve and minimal other damage; Ducky says stick in 4 new valves.... Going to flip the head and do a leak test as I would really like to replace as little as possible. It's interesting the differences in the cylinder carbon levels between cylinder three versus one and two. I think the number one plug was loose as well. Anyhow, ordering parts Monday! __________________ They called my son a "subversive" because he wrote a story about cutting all his teacher's heads off... 2006 Tiger 2008 KLR (hers)

09-22-2012, 10:44 AM	#32
Warney Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Omaha, Ne Oddometer: 450	Any updates?

02-09-2013, 03:47 PM	#40
David R I been called a Nut Job.. Joined: Oct 2009 Location: In Da Swamps of WNY Oddometer: 1,848	A moment of silence for your loss of compression.... Looking good. New valves, a little lapping compound and away you go. David __________________ 2012 R1200R ! 2000 R1100RT (retired), 1976 R75/6, 11 Versys There is a seat for everyone.

02-09-2013, 04:03 PM	#41
ADVMax Sporting Foole Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Sometimes I'm here, sometimes I'm there. Oddometer: 27,984	Say, I was just admiring the inside of your engine there. The oil, what kind does she use? Glad to see you digging in to it Chuck, really glad it's no worse than it looks. Hey? Wonder if a Hi-ABUSE-a engine'll fit in there? __________________ There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for what I'm about to do! The Second Amendment - it ain't about duck hunting. You heatherns needs some churchin up - http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

02-09-2013, 04:21 PM	#42
pluric Gimpy Adventurer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Salt Lake Oddometer: 11,702	I know I'm late to the party. A friend broke a plug off in his DR350. I had to drill it out. I then used a gas line size hose duct taped to a shop vac to suck the the crap out of the top end. I also would flush it with gas. Worked pretty good. We didn't have to pop the head of and it's still running today.

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