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Old 09-27-2012, 12:42 PM   #16
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Not having seals on hand doesn't mean new forks, it simply means there aren't seals on hand. They may have a superseded seal number and no stock on the new ones. As far as the install tool goes... a 45mm seal driver works on basically any 45mm fork. You can go on eBay and pick up a generic driver 45mm driver. I think your dealer is feeding you BS.

This riddle is easily solved.
A question for anyone with a 2013 F800gs: Does you front suspension suck? If so they are still using the Marzocchi sealed 45mm forks.

I doubt BMW would change from one shitty part to another shitty part. I expect if they did change they would have gone to an adjustable fork this time. I also expect if they changed that they would make a point of advertising that fact.

Just my thoughts though.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:09 PM   #17
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As the new owner of a 2013, I can tell you they changed the forks.
The forks are now WP.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:00 PM   #18
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As the new owner of a 2013, I can tell you they changed the forks.
The forks are now WP.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:27 PM   #19
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As the new owner of a 2013, I can tell you they changed the forks.
The forks are now WP.
Your bike might have the only 45mm WP USD forks in the world....

Do they say WP on them or what gives you that idea? There should be a part number embossed into the axle clamps, can you post that for us, or even better, post some pictures of the forks themselves so we can finally put this speculation at rest?
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:20 PM   #20
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It's getting dark but here's what I was able to grab really quick

Pair of these stickers at the top of each fork.

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Did a quick measurement of the fork slider/tube diameter, 43mm.

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Old 09-27-2012, 07:40 PM   #21
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It's getting dark but here's what I was able to grab really quick

Pair of these stickers at the top of each fork.

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Did a quick measurement of the fork slider/tube diameter, 43mm.
do I hear crickets?
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:47 PM   #22
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It's getting dark but here's what I was able to grab really quick

Pair of these stickers at the top of each fork.



Did a quick measurement of the fork slider/tube diameter, 43mm.
Ahhh very interesting!

I went to my dealer today to check out all the changes to the F7/F8 but all the F8's are gone! soph9 bought them all

Lot's of other things I'd like to check out too but I'll have to wait for the next ones. In the meantime it would be interesting to hear more about the forks (and rear shock/mounting?)!

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Old 09-27-2012, 08:22 PM   #23
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Ahhh very interesting!

I went to my dealer today to check out all the changes to the F7/F8 but all the F8's are gone! soph9 bought them all

Lot's of other things I'd like to check out too but I'll have to wait for the next ones. In the meantime it would be interesting to hear more about the forks (and rear shock/mounting?)!

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Yeah, same here on that rear shock. Reading that LONG thread was one of the reasons why I was initially turned off on the F800GS when shopping for a Sertao replacement. When I get a chance, I'll try and take things apart and have a look.

If there's any way of looking via simply popping the seat, I'm all ears. Or maybe an quick and easy way to snap a picture from a different angle...
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:58 PM   #24
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It's getting dark but here's what I was able to grab really quick

Pair of these stickers at the top of each fork.

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Did a quick measurement of the fork slider/tube diameter, 43mm.
Interesting BMW buying suspension parts from KTM. Wonder why they changed. Logistically it doesn't make much sense.

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Old 09-27-2012, 09:18 PM   #25
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The F800Gs just went a spot higher on my list.....and now, abut that shock.....
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:23 PM   #26
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A 45mm Zoke goes to a 43mm WP?
Doesn't seem right or a step in the right direction.

I'm sure there's more...
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:48 AM   #27
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It's getting dark but here's what I was able to grab really quick

Pair of these stickers at the top of each fork.

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Did a quick measurement of the fork slider/tube diameter, 43mm.
Are they adjustable? Clickers on the cap, foot or both?? 43mm, that's f%^ked, why go down in size?! I looked at a bunch of reviews all over the net and most mentioned the new shock but not one mentioned a change in the forks.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:01 AM   #28
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So they are indeed WP forks in 43mm, and both DE and international official BMW Motorrad pages are wrong, too.

One possible reason why they used those is that WP does not make a 45mm fork (that I am aware of) and their 43mm USD fork happens to share the same dimensions in the stanchions as the 45mm Zoke: 54mm diameter in the upper clamping area, and 57mm diameter in the lower. So they would still be able to use the same triple clamps.

Now the interesting question is if they are finally adjustable or at least have non-crimped cartridges, or if it's just a provider switch for the same cheap ass fork?
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:23 AM   #29
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Interesting twist. However why would WP put a sticker on their fork saying WP, I don't know. Also, it is the first golden WP fork leg I ever see.
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:53 AM   #30
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Are they adjustable? Clickers on the cap, foot or both?? 43mm, that's f%^ked, why go down in size?! I looked at a bunch of reviews all over the net and most mentioned the new shock but not one mentioned a change in the forks.
Well, size doesn't always mean better. There are a myriad of shock options and things like air shocks, progressive versus straight springs, dampening rate, etc. can affect a ride a lot more than the size.

But yeah, a reduction in size w/o any additional information means it's a downgrade.



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