Serious Design Flaw: Super Enduro!

[traveltoad]

Originally Posted by triplenickel

If Lakemonster is so anal he puts tie wire on his oil screen bolts the details on the plate are probably well sorted.

I was thinking the same thing!

[BIG-E]

Thank you very much Traveltoad!

Notice how there is no screws in the front in the oil tank?



Mike said that with all the weight on just the plate, (it mounts center and rear) it doesn't move at all. Thats not to say that I am not going to test this out, but I like this plate and the very first one will be on the way hopefully next Monday!!

Take care Everyone, Eric.

[PowerCell]

I can see in the below picture that the center bolts are threaded 8mm. Not all SE's shipped with this setup. Some, including my own, had these holes bored out to accept a 10mm though bolt. I've opened them up myself on other blocks without too much effort. A pass though 10mm bolt and nut is what I use on my plate to prevent these from shearing off and damaging the case.

Originally Posted by traveltoad

[traveltoad]

As always... good info Ken.

[traveltoad]

Because I didn't know about lakemonster's masterpiece... I now have the very last of these on my bike.

[Hondo]

Originally Posted by Yellow Pig

Again, this is mostly a concern on the SE, not the ADV.

The ADV skid plate bolts to a cast aluminum subframe in the front.

I understand that- I was just referring to your diagram which showed a gap between the bumper & the engine case on the BD skidplate- on either bike this will be an issue that can only be solved by filling the gap.

[frog]

Originally Posted by LoFlow

A little misleading. Not the same troublesome mounting point.

I know it doesn't use the same bolt hole as the kickstand. Just saying mounting something that could possibly take the full weight of the bike times whatever force caused it to bottom is a bad idea. Ie the kickstand that's why we move them.

I beat the shit out of my se and never had a problem with my bd skid plate. Its so bent and battered from getting the shit kicked out of it that its time for a new one. Years of abuse and 1000 miles of Vegas to reno will do that.

[Yellow Pig]

The dotted line was just to illustrate the hinge effect of the skid plate.

[LAKEMONSTER]

Originally Posted by triplenickel

If Lakemonster is so anal he puts tie wire on his oil screen bolts the details on the plate are probably well sorted.

I think I'll keep a few hundred bucks in my pocket and modify my Blackdog a bit, should be a few holes to drill and a simple bracket to bend up, maybe BDCW can build others and upgrade kit?

Anal, who me ??? Ha, Ha, Guilty as charged... As i was going back to school in 97 to become a Machinist,
my girlfriend at the time used to kid me, i was going to be the only Machinist in the Province that went to work
wearing a Tie? Not good to get caught in the Milling Machine though? Perhaps a Bow Tie?

The Safety Wiring comes from doing Track Days also. I saw Photos of a friend of mine flying through the air, four feet off the ground entering the Carousel in Seattle (SIR) He went to grab a handful of brake, and the lever went right to the Bars,
because the Brake Caliper had come off... Forgot to tighten, NO Safety wiring... NASTY.

Ever since then, anything with Motor Oil behind it, or Brake Pads, get the wire treatment. I sleep better?

BTW, Triplenickel, i used to live in CR before i moved to the Okanagan, Cheers!

[triplenickel]

Originally Posted by LAKEMONSTER

Anal, who me ??? Ha, Ha, Guilty as charged... As i was going back to school in 97 to become a Machinist,
my girlfriend at the time used to kid me, i was going to be the only Machinist in the Province that went to work
wearing a Tie? Not good to get caught in the Milling Machine though? Perhaps a Bow Tie?

The Safety Wiring comes from doing Track Days also. I saw Photos of a friend of mine flying through the air, four feet off the ground entering the Carousel in Seattle (SIR) He went to grab a handful of brake, and the lever went right to the Bars,
because the Brake Caliper had come off... Forgot to tighten, NO Safety wiring... NASTY.

Ever since then, anything with Motor Oil behind it, or Brake Pads, get the wire treatment. I sleep better?

BTW, Triplenickel, i used to live in CR before i moved to the Okanagan, Cheers!

Well you built a nice plate for sure, how long ago were you in CR?

[LAKEMONSTER]

Originally Posted by triplenickel

Well you built a nice plate for sure, how long ago were you in CR?

Was there from 1990 to 1998, used to Fall Timber all over the North Island, and camp jobs. Suuuure do miss
Fresh Seafood !!! Have some Prawns with Garlic Butter for this weekend, will ya?

[triplenickel]

Originally Posted by LAKEMONSTER

Was there from 1990 to 1998, used to Fall Timber all over the North Island, and camp jobs. Suuuure do miss
Fresh Seafood !!! Have some Prawns with Garlic Butter for this weekend, will ya?

Nice that was a little before I got here so we've probably not crossed paths. I've had to toss some back on the last half dozen outings as I've been limiting out! The jumbos are showing up again now that the commies are shut down, good times. Cheers.

[Brown Dog]

Originally Posted by WARRIORPRINCEJJ

...the B-D plate ...eliminates the mid-mounts ...

Originally Posted by hilslamer

It's not a design flaw at all, it's just not designed to be outright abused ...

Another tip is to always ... land rear wheel first, with a little bit of power on, so that the chassis "rolls into the landing" instead of expecting both ends to just absorb all of the load ...

Yellow Pig,
You can't launch a 420+ lb bike like its a 250cc race bike

The 950 can take High speed launches as long as you land like Hilslamer recommends above

Also wheelie over Rough Obstacles to where the plate never touches.

Watch the Factory Riders in the woods

They ride liquid smooth so they don't abuse the the bike

Eliminating the center mounts, puts tremendous stress on the oil tank

This is why I'm still running the OEM Stock Skid Plate

[Yellow Pig]

Ya, ya....I've been riding the bike like this for 4 years and it just now happened.

Now that it's fixed up again I'll keep riding it like I do and if I crush the rad after another 4 years, then thats the price to pay.


Back to my regularly scheduled riding:

[traveltoad]

Originally Posted by Yellow Pig

Ya, ya....I've been riding the bike like this for 4 years and it just now happened.

Now that it's fixed up again I'll keep riding it like I do and if I crush the rad after another 4 years, then thats the price to pay.


Back to my regularly scheduled riding:

That looks fun!