ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Racing
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10-02-2012, 11:17 AM   #436
Deadly99
Fast and Far
 
Deadly99's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Merrickville, Canada
Oddometer: 8,868
Ya that certainly doesnt sound like he is riding..well I suppose if Helder was looking for a "w" then JC would be a good one. Navigating, speed, maturity, etc he will be a good addition to the team. Can't wait until january to see how this all works out for HRC
__________________
Tales From The Bivouac Rally Print Publications

TCAT (Trans Canada Adventure Trail)


Gravel Travel Canada - Canada's Source for Overland Travel
Deadly99 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 11:23 AM   #437
too old
Keen supporter
 
too old's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Location: Sandy waste
Oddometer: 2,556
Jordi Viladoms (KTM - Bordone Ferrari) ran a nearly perfect stage today. We say nearly because the Catalan rider started very strong in the first part, before losing a little concentration later on. As he explained in his usual calm and direct way: “The second part of the stage was faster than the first. I left the refueling point with a thirty-second lead on the others, but Barreda and Goncalves were able to catch me. I was impressed by their speed, as their bikes were going at least 10 km/h faster than mine. That distracted me a little bit.” That said, Jordi still won the 307 km stage with an advantage of 1'12'' over Jakub Przygonsky (KTM – Orlen team), another rider who was fast in the first half of the stage, “but they lost me towards the end,” the Polish rider explained.

Quote from the Pharoans site - so, the BMW Husqvarna is 10kph quicker that the KTM 450RR - or the one that Viladoms has at least - so what is that, 170 kpm verses 160 kpm?

The Aliens will have quicker bikes for sure, wonder what the CRF 450 R top end will be?

too old screwed with this post 10-02-2012 at 11:42 AM
too old is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 11:25 AM   #438
doyle
RallyRaidReview-ing
 
doyle's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Location: Off Piste
Oddometer: 22,906
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadly99 View Post
Ya that certainly doesnt sound like he is riding..well I suppose if Helder was looking for a "w" then JC would be a good one. Navigating, speed, maturity, etc he will be a good addition to the team. Can't wait until january to see how this all works out for HRC
From the HRC site

Quote:
From Honda's R&D Center in Japan, Katsumi Yamazaki is the project leader and team director. The team manager is Henk Hellegers, who can boast 18 participations in rally raids. An experienced team of mechanics and staff will support the five riders with the aim of competing at the highest level and fighting to give Honda its sixth Dakar victory.

The international line-up of the five-rider team , with Portuguese Helder Rodriguez, Brazilian Felipe Zanol, Briton Sam Sunderland, American Johnny Campbell and Argentinian Javier Pizzolito, perfectly reflects the idea of a global Honda.
__________________
Got Smugmug? Use code HWkDUhHwGv5Tc for a discount.

RallyRaidReview - @RallyRaidReview
doyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 11:28 AM   #439
too old
Keen supporter
 
too old's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Location: Sandy waste
Oddometer: 2,556
Quote:
Originally Posted by doyle View Post
From the HRC site

"perfectly reflects the idea of a global Honda" - global sales & marketing! - not daft these guys

"Honda of South America branding on the bike" - so budget from SA also?

too old screwed with this post 10-02-2012 at 11:40 AM
too old is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 11:50 AM   #440
pfdskipper
Westside Trash
 
pfdskipper's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Litchfield Park, Az
Oddometer: 1,021
Is there any real chance that a similar production bike will make it to the USA for sale to the general public???

My guess is no
pfdskipper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 11:58 AM   #441
too old
Keen supporter
 
too old's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Location: Sandy waste
Oddometer: 2,556
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...19223621_o.jpg

1 each, or 5 on 1 bike -
too old is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 12:02 PM   #442
too old
Keen supporter
 
too old's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Location: Sandy waste
Oddometer: 2,556
Quote:
Originally Posted by pfdskipper View Post
Is there any real chance that a similar production bike will make it to the USA for sale to the general public???

My guess is no
Suspect yes - maybe not quite with the same race engine or suspension set up, but sufficient for mere mortals to ride at their limit, but to be added to if you have the $$$$$$$
too old is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 12:13 PM   #443
Dread Pendragon
Slartibartfast
 
Dread Pendragon's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Logan, Utah
Oddometer: 2,206
I don't know all the factors that fed into Honda's decision to take this course, but it looks like the ASO's decision to bump engine sizes down to 450 is paying off. Would Honda have developed a rally bike without the change? Behind the scenes did Honda agree to step-up their efforts if the ASO made the change? Only God knows, and top brass at Honda/ASO . . . well, and probably TSC.

Whether the bike performs extremely well or falls short this January, it's nice to watch a second player join the game.
__________________
"Never get excited in a rally, its a race, but its never a race at that exact moment" -Quinn Cody
Dread Pendragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 01:24 PM   #444
Flanny
Flanny-it-up!
 
Flanny's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, the World, the Universe
Oddometer: 2,738
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread Pendragon View Post
Whether the bike performs extremely well or falls short this January, it's nice to watch a second player join the game.
Agreed 100%. I remember all of the moaning and crying when the 450 rule came in. I think with HRC, FB, Yamaha, Beta, BMW/Husky the diversity of machines and teams, the proof is in the pudding. It was a good thing after all.

Having said that, I don't for a minute pretend that any of these bikes will "trickle down" to anything remotely close to consumer products anytime soon.

Even for KTM, who has lived and breathed this philosophy for more than a decade, the closest we ever got to trickle down was the 640 Adventure (pretty close in form to the 660 Rallye of the late nineties), the 950 Adventure (pretty close in form to the 950 Rallye), and the 690 Enduro (which was actually pretty far from the 690 Rally except for the chassis use). However, the trend right now is away from these toward more road/touring machines (see 2013 1190 Adventure for evidence)

So - I wouldn't expect to see a Honda 450 Rally anytime soon, any more that I'd expect to see a KTM 450 Rally Replica at a KTM dealer anytime soon...

I'm the first that would love to be wrong about that, but history just isn't on our side I don't think....
Flanny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 02:49 PM   #445
auguzt
4ever n00b
 
auguzt's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: NW Italy, lots o' wines n' hills
Oddometer: 367
Talking Pics Pics Pics

From MOTO.IT
Just click on the picture of the bike and the whole gallery will unfold. Oh yeah.
__________________
My head is my only house unless it rains.
auguzt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 03:01 PM   #446
auguzt
4ever n00b
 
auguzt's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: NW Italy, lots o' wines n' hills
Oddometer: 367
That plexiglass screen actually reminds me of...
__________________
My head is my only house unless it rains.
auguzt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 04:08 PM   #447
rmhrc628
Beastly Adventurer
 
rmhrc628's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: The high country VIC
Oddometer: 2,443
I'm worried about the efi. The safari would have been a good shakedown with its days of dust.

Pgm-fi has been on the 450x for 18 months now though
rmhrc628 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 04:27 PM   #448
rmhrc628
Beastly Adventurer
 
rmhrc628's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: The high country VIC
Oddometer: 2,443
Anyone know what this tube might be?


The image is a still from the promo video

Looks like some filter material on end
rmhrc628 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 04:33 PM   #449
pfdskipper
Westside Trash
 
pfdskipper's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Litchfield Park, Az
Oddometer: 1,021
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmhrc628 View Post
Anyone know what this tube might be?


The image is a still from the promo video

Looks like some filter material on end
Automatic tire inflator/deflator..........
pfdskipper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 04:38 PM   #450
rmhrc628
Beastly Adventurer
 
rmhrc628's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: The high country VIC
Oddometer: 2,443
Are the side tanks plastic or alloy?
rmhrc628 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 11:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014