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Old 07-23-2012, 02:41 PM   #31
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I wonder how you guys on the RTW trip deal with motor oil? Call your favorite BMW dealer to FedEx the oil to your hotel?

I read the RR and saw the riders even bough gasoline stored in a jug/bottle, wonder how are you going to find specific BMW motorcycle brand oil in middle of India or China...
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:37 AM   #32
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wonder how are you going to find specific BMW motorcycle brand oil in middle of India or China...
They'll be too busy dialing for roadside assistance.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:25 PM   #33
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F650GS motoroil

new 2012 f650gs. owners manual recommends Castrol 10W40 in -4degrees F and 15W40 for warmer temps. Think that is what i used in my 2008 K1300GT as well. Both have wet clutch. Sooooooooo?????
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:17 PM   #34
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I think the point which some of us want to make is that BMW Motorrad in certain instances does not stock what is specified in the book and also if you are somewhere where there is no BMW dealer and no 15-40w motorcycle oil available, you will be using something else. Believe it or not, 15-40 or 10-40 bike oil is not widely available outside the 1st world.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:11 AM   #35
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I've read in several places that you can mix weights of oil and that you roughly end up with the average for the blend.

Officially BMW (was) recommending Castrol Act-Evo Xtra 10W-40 which is a synthetic blend and is what I have been using ... that particular oil is available in 10W-40 and 20W-50

I've read in several places that you can mix weights of oil and that you roughly end up with the average for the blend.
I've been unable to find any references that says mixing viscosities of the same brand of oil is "bad" ...

If I put 1.5Qt of 10W-40 and 1.5Qt of 20W-50 in my bike at the next oil change do I end up with ~15W-45?

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Old 10-18-2012, 11:51 AM   #36
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I have said this before, but I have a factory BMW sticker ON MY BIKE that says to use SE or SF oil of the following weights:
10w30, 40, 50
15w40, 50
20w40, 50

It is there. I have used several of the weights listed. Just sayin'
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:37 PM   #37
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I have said this before, but I have a factory BMW sticker ON MY BIKE that says to use SE or SF oil of the following weights:
10w30, 40, 50
15w40, 50
20w40, 50

It is there. I have used several of the weights listed. Just sayin'
where would one look to see this sticker on my bike?
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:44 PM   #38
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where would one look to see this sticker on my bike?
It's under the seat near the tailight. Engine model specifics and valve clearances are on the same sticker. Not all bikes have it. Mine is a Canadian model, and it is mentioned on the sticker as well.
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:06 PM   #39
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Novice Mechanic takeaway

What I'm gathering here is oil debates devolve into a lot of science and personal preference plus added confusion of dealers, manufacturers and everyone else in the chain changing their minds?

Ok, whatever, but the basic simple option to the expensive ($8.50 a quart) BMW branded 10w40 I pick up at the dealership is to go with Castrol 10w40? This is recommended in the service manual? Make sure it is motorcycle specific formula though right?

Like this stuff?
http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/...tm?Click=35177

Oh and for what it's worth, even buying the BMW branded oil at my dealer, the parts guy or service tech has interchangeably sold me the 10w40 or 10w50. I queried them on that and they both said it doesn't make a difference.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:56 AM   #40
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OK, I read through all these, and remember other oil threads where similar has occurred.

It gives me a headache thinking about it.

For the love of God, use google or something and search for oil grades explained....read...learn...and let's not do this again.

http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/

Here is one such article. Search oil company sites, and check out the standards they refer to.



for the record, I use a 10/70 full synthetic, and enough moly to treat a truck engine. no clutch slip, haven't adjusted the clutch or valves in 50,000kms of heavy 2-up riding. Smoother shifting, less rattle at cold start, less transmission noise. Have done the same in 4 bikes and 3 cars. Never been an issue.


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Old 10-22-2012, 07:46 AM   #41
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It gives me a headache thinking about it.

For the love of God, use google or something and search for oil grades explained....read...learn...and let's not do this again.

http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/

Here is one such article. Search oil company sites, and check out the standards they refer to.
Just clicking on that link made my eyes bleed. I'm not looking to be an oil expert, hence coming here to get advice. Just the cliff notes please, thanks, LOL
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:30 AM   #42
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Cliff's Notes:

Motorrad will publish an oil recommendation and the dealers will not follow it.
Motorrad will sell you oil that is exactly the same as the Castrol bottle but you will pay as high as 3 times more for it.
When the local dealer runs out, they will sell you the exact same oil that the local Wal-Mart does but charge you 25% more for it.
Motorrad will sell you a bike with an owners manual that says you must use a certain oil and the dealer will never have that oil in stock nor use it.
Motorrad will often say one thing and the local dealer will do another.
People will get high mileage out of motors lubed with synthetic oil and people will get high mileage out of motors lubed with dead dinosaurs.

A true and lasting peace in the Middle East is more likely than even a general consensus on oil threads.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:44 AM   #43
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:45 PM   #44
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Old 10-26-2012, 02:36 PM   #45
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Rotella T, 15/40 HD engine oil non-synthetic. It is JASO certified which I believe makes it ok for wet clutches.
Works great in a GSA with 6K changes, DR650 and WeeStrom with wet clutches and no problems, anything that uses a dino oil that can use a 15/40 or close.
$13.00 a gallon at Wally World and available every where, less than $4.00 a qt.
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