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Old 10-29-2012, 12:33 PM   #14776
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The Breeze, my XC has always pulled to the right. I installed a LeoVince muffler & I can barely notice it now. BTW, I use a tape measure to aline the rear. I've never trusted those marks.

Do you happen to know the weight of the stock can vs. the LeoVince???
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:50 PM   #14777
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It's from a company in South Africa called "Aerotrim".
www.aerotrim.co.za.
Very easy to fit.
I found that although I didn't have any buffeting, I did have a lot of wind noise, now, it is very quiet.
FWIW, I bought this and put it on my tiger. It was $90 shipped from the US distributor and the guy shipped it out quickly. I am 5'9" and have my seat in the high position. This went on a std. screen. Wind turbulence was reduced quite a lot. Big difference in the force on the helmet when turning to check for a clear lane at 70mph +. Noise is still a little high but with ear plugs it's tolerable. Different helmets can make a big difference in noise so I see curing the turbulence as a little more universal. Using Arai RX-Q fwiw.

I have a modified low position that I use for the summer and when just commuting which gives me pretty clean air but for the highway and/or cooler weather I prefer more wind blockage and this aerotrim piece is a significant improvement over just the std. screen and its also better than the high triumph screen IMO.

I bought an adjustable mount for the std screen which should be here shortly and hopefully I can fine tune things a little more.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:02 PM   #14778
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Do you happen to know the weight of the stock can vs. the LeoVince???
No, but I was told the LV is less than half the weight of the stock muffler. The stock muffler would make a good boat anchor.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:16 PM   #14779
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Seems like my Tiger XC wants to constantly pull to the right. It never really bothered me on day rides.....but, just completed a 3k mile ride to the Ozarks (which has fantastic twisties by the way) and when slabbing it home to South Texas, it became a PIA.

In other words, while going 70-80 mph down the highway, if you take your hands off the bars......the bike will start to drift to the right. Which means I'm constantly having to push forward on the left bar (with light pressure)....or pull back on the right bar....(i.e., counter steering) to keep the bike going straight.

I love this bike, but would really like to resolve this issue.

Does everyones Tiger do this? Is there a fix?

Thanks!
A pull to the right means the front wheel is too far to the right, and needs to move left in respect to the hub. Using 1/4 turns of the spoke wrench, loosen all the spokes on the "from" side, then tighten all the spokes on the "to" side. Test ride, and repeat if condition still exists. This may take a half dozen or more iterations to get right, but doing it in small steps mitigates the possibility of putting the wheel out of true.

Doing this fixed my "right pull" issue; the bike now tracks straight as an arrow on level ground with hands off bars.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:36 PM   #14780
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A pull to the right means the front wheel is too far to the right, and needs to move left in respect to the hub. Using 1/4 turns of the spoke wrench, loosen all the spokes on the "from" side, then tighten all the spokes on the "to" side. Test ride, and repeat if condition still exists. This may take a half dozen or more iterations to get right, but doing it in small steps mitigates the possibility of putting the wheel out of true.

Doing this fixed my "right pull" issue; the bike now tracks straight as an arrow on level ground with hands off bars.
Excellent I'll try it and report back.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:45 PM   #14781
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If it was indeed the weight of the muffler (insignificant in the big scheme of things) then you would be leaning left to balance it and it would pull left, not right.


Regarding weight, every one likes to make these grand claims about weight savings by replacing a factory muffler. They do it ad infinitem on the husky forums for the 630 as well.

So let's say you drop 8lbs for one, or 15lbs for two (mufflers, the husky has two), and 4lbs by ditching the stock battery for a Shorai...so about 20-25lbs or so, right? So you have a 450lb pig instead of a 475lb pig, and then pile gear and racks and all that crap on it. Same for the husky, so you have a 310 bike instead of 330. Wow. And you only spent about $60 per lb to do that. Most guys will say the money is better spent on a gym membership and/or rider training. A GSA or a S10 are still another 100-150lbs. I wonder if they use the same logic...

Oh, and then you don a 7lb adventure jacket and put a 3L hydration pack on your back. Sheesh!!
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:47 PM   #14782
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If it was indeed the weight of the muffler (insignificant in the big scheme of things) then you would be leaning left to balance it and it would pull left, not right.
It's countersteering the bike ...

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Old 10-29-2012, 03:15 PM   #14783
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My klr did this pull to one side. The rear wheel wasn't tracking straight. Small adjustments to the rear end, ride and see, adjust again. I wouldn't touch the front spokes yet.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:24 PM   #14784
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No, but I was told the LV is less than half the weight of the stock muffler. The stock muffler would make a good boat anchor.
Total weight of stock is 5.89 kg
Total weight of LeoVince Aluminium is 3.52
Total weight of LeoVince Carbon (I have one! Yesss!) 3.17 kg

http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-t...i_e_2011/14229

http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-t...i_e_2011/14230

By no means stock muffler is too heavy comparing to most I handled in my experience. More to it - it is rather smart design with combined labyrinth/straight through combo. But bulky and noise not nice.
But Leo is brilliant - sounds great, looks good and don't affect bike power negatively (according to dyno runs I saw). And it is VERY well made and not too expensive.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:47 PM   #14785
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To those that have experienced the pulling to the right:

Are you all sure it's not simply uneven tire wear? Fronts always wear more on the right than the left so, perhaps, after time, start pulling that way since the road to tread delta ends up being steeper.

Just a thought.

Oh, and the LV Carbon can feels quite a bit lighter than stock, but I don't think it qualifies as less than half. Maybe 2/3 the stock weight? Not sure since I didn't weigh it before putting it on.

I will say it improved bottom end grunt and sounds infinitely better....!
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:55 PM   #14786
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California Tiger Owners Check in Thread

I started a thread for Cali Tiger riders to check in. How many Tigers riders on the left coast do we have on here?

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=837127
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:37 AM   #14787
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In search of a brighter brake light

So as much as I like this bike, I have been disappointed with the rear tail/brake light, mainly because it is not as bright as other bikes, specifically most Japanese bikes that use clusters of rear facing diodes. The Tiger uses side facing diodes in the light array which are then reflected rearward to illuminate from behind. Being LED, we cannot increase the brightness so what's a Tiger owner to do?

Here are the markers from behind on an overcast day-



And now the brake lights-




I searched out a waterproof LED array which has a pulse trigger lead (not cheap). Then with a bit more searching, I located the factory wiring plugs and, after a bit of wiring, built this--



The black plugs are a direct match to the Triumph factory plugs, so all that is necessary is to unplug the rear light assembly, insert this in between, and plug them in.

The light is slim and narrow enough and fits just perfectly into the notch above the light assembly and below the rear rack. It is adhered in place with 3M dual side waterproof adhesive.






The light array acts as a tail light just as the original does when it is powered on. When the brakes are applied, the light emits a brief series of pulses and then stays on bright. Let me just say, the brake lights are super bright, even in the sunlight.

Tail lights alone with LED array-



And with the brake lights applied-



Here is a video link to the application of the brakes. It is out of focus due to the flash and brightness of the LED's-




I've though about making more should there be a demand, but at the very least I just wanted to share the light improvement.

Cheers,
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***MOVED TO VENDORS***


There were requests for more of these so I started a thread in Vendors (thanks GB for the guidance). Please go there to ask your questions and place your orders.

Here is the Vendors link: http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...5#post19943845

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Old 10-30-2012, 06:07 AM   #14788
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Rear LEDs

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So as much as I like this bike, I have been disappointed with the rear tail/brake light,
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Very nice modification!

I too was not satisfied with my Tiger's rear lighting. I added an off the shelf, inexpensive and BRIGHT! LED tail/brake light and located it below the OEM light after lowering the license tag a bit. Overall, I'm totally happy with my mod but it ain't as purdy as yours!

Where did you source your plugs?
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:41 AM   #14789
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Hey Pilot 3, put me down for one if you decide to make some more
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:50 AM   #14790
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Hey Pilot 3, put me down for one if you decide to make some more
+1

I think you may have just discovered a market for your well-designed accessory.

It looks better and fits more nicely than hyper-lites or other current aftermarket solutions.
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