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Old 10-22-2012, 07:44 PM   #241
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As for sizing...

For those who say the pants are cut small... have you measured your waist? Mine is 32", so I bought size 32. I could easily wear a 30, because I need to crank the velcro waistband adjusters pretty tight. And, they are pretty baggy.
I'm going to keep them, because I wanted to be able to wear something pretty thick underneath for winter. But, if these were my warm weather pants, I'd need to go a size smaller than my actual waist.
The kneepads seem a tad low, but when I'm on the bike, they are in the right spot.
These are by far the best pants I've ever owned.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:42 PM   #242
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I'm actually a 33" right now.
The 32's fit almost perfect, a hair tight in the waist,but lots of room in the ass and legs.
I would say the are an "athletic" cut.
The 34 would have been way too big.

The waistband leaves a lot to be desired though.
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:09 AM   #243
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Now off to Baja for a real test
I'm doubting you'll get much of a chance to see if the replacement jacket leaks in the Baja!

Hope you have a great trip, but will be waiting anxiously to see what the report on the replacement jacket is when you return to the monsoons here in Victoria. I'm starting to have my doubts about Klim and this jacket with your report not being the first I heard about the Badlands leaking. I had high hopes for this jacket and was willing to fork out the dineros, but now I'm not so sure.

Klim's response seems to have been somewhat decent in your experience. But having you tape off the zippers to test the waterproofness makes me wonder what their response would have been if the zippers were leaking. Other reports on that point seem to indicate, "too bad, so sad" is pretty much Klim's response. I'm not going to spend that much money on something that doesn't work. I've been down that road too many times already with mid-priced gear.

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Old 11-02-2012, 08:02 PM   #244
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Klim's response seems to have been somewhat decent in your experience. But having you tape off the zippers to test the waterproofness makes me wonder what their response would have been if the zippers were leaking. Other reports on that point seem to indicate, "too bad, so sad" is pretty much Klim's response. I'm not going to spend that much money on something that doesn't work. I've been down that road too many times already with mid-priced gear.
No better place to get it than right from the horses mouth . . . I contacted Klim about the chance of zippers leaking and the warranty They said that the outside cargo pockets are not guaranteed to be waterproof and in unsusual circumstances, might get water in the pocket due to a bottom seam that cannot be sealed. But it won't leak through the jacket. ANY leakage from the outside to the inside of the jacket including zippers would be warranteed.

So based on the above, and a very good real-world test about a guy sliding over cheese-grater pavement in a contstruction zone in Russia with almost zero damage to the suit or himself (Klim Adventure suit), I'm going to go for the Badlands which seems similar in quality and construction, but would suit my dual-sport riding better.

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Old 11-03-2012, 12:44 PM   #245
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I'm around 6' and 200# and wear a 46" jacket and 36" pant. The Badlands Pro jacket in an XL fits me fine. I also have a pair of Dakkar pants in a 36 and they are almost too big so I'm hoping a Badlands Pro pant in a 36 will fit correctly.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:50 PM   #246
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When you wear the Badlands pants do you attach them to the jacket? use suspenders? or wear them unattached?
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:21 PM   #248
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When you wear the Badlands pants do you attach them to the jacket? use suspenders? or wear them unattached?
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:42 PM   #249
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Which ones?
Do the pants have attachment points for them?

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I'd answer that but I attach them so

Even though I could tell you but you ignored me.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:22 PM   #251
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I'd answer that but I attach them so

Even though I could tell you but you ignored me.
I know there's a zipper attachment to the jacket, but are there loops or hooks to attach suspenders? I don't think alligator clips can hold the pants on if you're sliding on the ground..
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:30 PM   #252
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There are two places(loops) in the front of the pants,just beside the fly zipper,where you could probably attach suspenders.
I think you could use the side adjusting tabs to attach the rear of the suspenders.

Why not just zip them together?
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:32 PM   #253
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The zipper is small and at the back of the pants, so it makes removing the jacket kinda tricky, no?
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I use the KLIM suspenders.. there are loops specifically for suspenders on the front and the back for them. No metal clips involved.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:34 PM   #255
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Not as easy as the BMW zippers but you get used to it.
One trick I learned was to zipper before cinching the kidney belt.
Unzipping I didn't have a problem with.
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