Pro Moto Billet Kickstand UPgrade

SteveO · 07-14-2012, 08:49 PM

The KTM kickstands leave a lot to be desired. They are held in place by a single bolt, which often fail and leave the rider without a kickstand.

I decided to "upgrade" to a Pro Moto Billet Kickstand. While the kickstand looks nice.....

there is a flaw with the design of this kickstand....at least, in my humble opinion, there is a flaw

The pin that holds the kickstand portion, holds the kickstand in place with a Snap-Ring. This Snap Ring is not very strong when leverage is placed on it during a dirt-nap.....

To remedy this engineering oversight, I created my own backing plate to replace the Pro Moto Billet "plastic" backing cover.

I cut a 3/16" steel plate to the size of the plastic cover.
I drilled a 3/8 hold in this plate that would allow a bolt to go through this plate.
I drilled out the kickstand leg to 1/2", and put a steel sleeve in it, in which the 3/8" bolt would slide through the steel sleeve.
Now, the kickstand leg is being supported by both sides of the kickstand body and a bolt that goes all the way through......instead of "Snap Ring" holding it all together.

This should last a lot longer now....

ThePod · 11-07-2012, 11:33 PM

Awesome pics and write up.

I took your idea and ran with it. Did the same thing. Should hold up a lot better now.

Thanks for the pics

SteveO · 11-08-2012, 06:18 AM

Glad you like it. I've had ZERO issues with this modification. I was really disappointed with the design of the ProMoto Billet's snap-ring. During a crash that snap ring is all that is holding the pin in place. Not too well thought out. I suppose if you don't ever crash, on the left side, then, yeah, it'll save some weight, but come on, lets get real here.

I guess the engineers don't crash that often, and thus they don't need to have "RookieMoto" bullet-proof strength in their design......

Tooltech · 11-09-2012, 10:29 AM

I considered this side stand however, the manufacturer said it is NOT strong enough to use when mounting / dismounting off the foot peg.

My goal is to have a side stand able to support the rider's weight. I find it difficult to get on and off the KTM 500 EXC while a full 25L dry bag is strapped on the back of the saddle.

Does anyone know of a better side stand for the aforementioned purpose?

ThumpnRed · 11-09-2012, 11:24 AM

Great idea, but the bolt sticking out looks like torn flesh waiting to happen. I'd cut it down and put an acorn nut on it.

mtbdemon · 11-09-2012, 11:40 AM

I have a KTM 620 Adventurer (Think 640) Would this kickstand work on it? I hate the one I currently have. it has fallen over its stand more then once....

WVa Dualsport · 11-12-2012, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tooltech

I considered this side stand however, the manufacturer said it is NOT strong enough to use when mounting / dismounting off the foot peg.

My goal is to have a side stand able to support the rider's weight. I find it difficult to get on and off the KTM 500 EXC while a full 25L dry bag is strapped on the back of the saddle.

Does anyone know of a better side stand for the aforementioned purpose?

No, this is about as good as it gets as far as KTM kickstands are concerned.

SteveO · 11-12-2012, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumpnRed

Great idea, but the bolt sticking out looks like torn flesh waiting to happen. I'd cut it down and put an acorn nut on it.

Excellent idea, this winter I'll have to look into doing just that....

thanks

SteveO · 11-12-2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtbdemon

I have a KTM 620 Adventurer (Think 640) Would this kickstand work on it? I hate the one I currently have. it has fallen over its stand more then once....

I don't know if this particular model would work on your KTM 620. But, I would venture that Pro Moto has one for your bike, and you can then perform this upgrade to make it bullet proof.

ThePod · 11-12-2012, 07:59 PM

Here's my upgraded kickstand in action on my KTM 200EXC

and my friend liked the idea so much he did it for his YZ450

SteveO · 11-13-2012, 06:09 AM

Maybe Pro Moto Billet take a few notes from this thread and make a better kick stand.

07-14-2012, 08:49 PM	#1
SteveO ^OP Huh??? Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Land of Disenchantment Oddometer: 982	Pro Moto Billet Kickstand UPgrade The KTM kickstands leave a lot to be desired. They are held in place by a single bolt, which often fail and leave the rider without a kickstand. I decided to "upgrade" to a Pro Moto Billet Kickstand. While the kickstand looks nice..... there is a flaw with the design of this kickstand....at least, in my humble opinion, there is a flaw The pin that holds the kickstand portion, holds the kickstand in place with a Snap-Ring. This Snap Ring is not very strong when leverage is placed on it during a dirt-nap..... To remedy this engineering oversight, I created my own backing plate to replace the Pro Moto Billet "plastic" backing cover. I cut a 3/16" steel plate to the size of the plastic cover. I drilled a 3/8 hold in this plate that would allow a bolt to go through this plate. I drilled out the kickstand leg to 1/2", and put a steel sleeve in it, in which the 3/8" bolt would slide through the steel sleeve. Now, the kickstand leg is being supported by both sides of the kickstand body and a bolt that goes all the way through......instead of "Snap Ring" holding it all together. This should last a lot longer now.... __________________ .................................................. .................................... NMOHVA.ORG - Help to keep your trails open! Life is a mist in the wind, here today and gone tomorrow; know who you are and where you are going after you pass through death's door. SteveO screwed with this post 11-12-2012 at 05:31 PM

11-08-2012, 06:18 AM	#3
SteveO ^OP Huh??? Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Land of Disenchantment Oddometer: 982	Glad you like it. I've had ZERO issues with this modification. I was really disappointed with the design of the ProMoto Billet's snap-ring. During a crash that snap ring is all that is holding the pin in place. Not too well thought out. I suppose if you don't ever crash, on the left side, then, yeah, it'll save some weight, but come on, lets get real here. I guess the engineers don't crash that often, and thus they don't need to have "RookieMoto" bullet-proof strength in their design...... __________________ .................................................. .................................... NMOHVA.ORG - Help to keep your trails open! Life is a mist in the wind, here today and gone tomorrow; know who you are and where you are going after you pass through death's door.

11-09-2012, 10:29 AM	#4
Tooltech Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2011 Location: White Salmon, WA Oddometer: 132	Is it strong enough? I considered this side stand however, the manufacturer said it is NOT strong enough to use when mounting / dismounting off the foot peg. My goal is to have a side stand able to support the rider's weight. I find it difficult to get on and off the KTM 500 EXC while a full 25L dry bag is strapped on the back of the saddle. Does anyone know of a better side stand for the aforementioned purpose? __________________ 2013 KTM 500 EXC 2012 KTM 990 SMT 6 NOVEMBER 2012 DARK DAY FOR USA

11-09-2012, 11:40 AM	#6
mtbdemon Studly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Beaverton Oregon Oddometer: 825	I have a KTM 620 Adventurer (Think 640) Would this kickstand work on it? I hate the one I currently have. it has fallen over its stand more then once.... __________________ I am a leaf on the wind, watch me.....ride (I know, it makes no sense) 2007 YZ 250F SOLD 1998 KTM 620 Adventure 2004 KTM 200 EXC

11-12-2012, 07:59 PM	#10
ThePod n00b Joined: Nov 2012 Oddometer: 2	Here's my upgraded kickstand in action on my KTM 200EXC and my friend liked the idea so much he did it for his YZ450 ThePod screwed with this post 11-12-2012 at 08:04 PM

11-07-2012, 11:33 PM	#2
ThePod n00b Joined: Nov 2012 Oddometer: 2	Awesome pics and write up. I took your idea and ran with it. Did the same thing. Should hold up a lot better now. Thanks for the pics

11-13-2012, 06:09 AM	#11
SteveO ^OP Huh??? Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Land of Disenchantment Oddometer: 982	Maybe Pro Moto Billet take a few notes from this thread and make a better kick stand. __________________ .................................................. .................................... NMOHVA.ORG - Help to keep your trails open! Life is a mist in the wind, here today and gone tomorrow; know who you are and where you are going after you pass through death's door.

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