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Old 11-14-2012, 07:37 AM   #18061
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Jeez, look at those slow bastards seizing the lane and blocking traffic....

why won't they let those poor fuckers on the bicycles by?
No need to...the bicycles are making an inside pass!
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:34 AM   #18062
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No need to...the bicycles are making an inside pass!
Looks like the lead MC dropped a buncha oil and the bicycles and following MCs are each taking one side.

Bicycles were by the lead MC in a coupla turns anyway.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:04 AM   #18063
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Looks like the lead MC dropped a buncha oil and the bicycles and following MCs are each taking one side.

Bicycles were by the lead MC in a coupla turns anyway.
I think there Honda's
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:04 PM   #18064
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Nope...the back one is a Suzuki VL800.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:18 PM   #18065
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Coat hangers will let you gas-weld mild steel to cast iron, though.
Nah. It won't stick with any strength.

Silvaloy is a brand name of about a dozen different alloys of filler metal for silver brazing/silver soldering/hard soldering.

Brazing is soldering at higher temperature with higher strength filler metal.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:16 PM   #18066
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Nah. It won't stick with any strength.

Silvaloy is a brand name of about a dozen different alloys of filler metal for silver brazing/silver soldering/hard soldering.

Brazing is soldering at higher temperature with higher strength filler metal.
Yeah, I wouldn't repair anything too critical that way, worked when I needed it to though.

I thought what set brazing apart was the filler would (very slightly) alloy with the base metal?
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:28 PM   #18067
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Yeah, I wouldn't repair anything too critical that way, worked when I needed it to though.

I thought what set brazing apart was the filler would (very slightly) alloy with the base metal?
Brazed joints can be very strong if they're done correctly. A tight joint, properly cleaned and fluxed, will suck silver solder in by capillary action. Motorcycle and bicycle frames were assembled this way, and the parent metal would fail before the brazed joint. Another type of brazing known as bronze welding, using a nickel-bronze alloy, was and is used to assemble motorcycle and race car tubular frames. The alloys used have the property of forming large fillets, and that accounts for their strength.

Braze does combine with the base metal at the join point. It's been classed as hard soldering to set it apart from soft soldering involving lead-tin alloys. Flux has to be used for both types.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:32 PM   #18068
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Pissed Great...

Now it's become a f*cking welding thread
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:46 PM   #18069
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Now it's become a f*cking welding thread
Could be worse, like an oil or tire thread
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:51 PM   #18070
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Is it a good idea to drain your engine oil before welding on your frame?
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:00 PM   #18071
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:02 PM   #18072
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:55 PM   #18073
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Is it a good idea to drain your engine oil before welding on your frame?
Only if you use dynabeads while running car tires :-)
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:11 PM   #18074
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:59 PM   #18075
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BTW, not me. Someone needs to brush up on those skills.



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