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Old 11-14-2012, 09:31 PM   #16
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My friend quit paying on his house and I have tried so hard to get him to let me do this with the rc51 LOL!

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If I was going to kill myself, I wouldn't tell anyone. I'd let them think I died doing something brave like jumping out of an airplane: The Old Man just had to try sky diving before he was too old, but his shute didn't open. At least he died with his boots on..." Suicide (that your family knows about) leaves lots of hurt feelings.

I'll probably die doing motorcycle stunts at the rest home...

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Old 11-14-2012, 11:13 PM   #17
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Interesting timing on this thread:

I went to see my Dr for a hand/wrist problem that I figured was an old nasty mtn bike injury rearing it's arthritic head, so to speak. Well, after a couple of tests,(including an EMG) and visits to the neurologist, he calls me at home two weeks ago (as my one month old daughter is sleeping in my arms and my 23 month old daughter plays at my feet) and tells me I have Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS).

ALS seems to take you in 2-5 years, and I've had the symptoms since last winter.

My plan, since you asked, is to go hard enough to have fun, but not push the envelope: I don't want to get inured and then have "down time" taking up what little time I have left.

The problem is choosing between time on the bikes and boats vs time holding and running around with my daughters and wife. I figured I've ridden and paddled most my life, so usually I'll be holding the little ones wishing they could actually remember it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:17 AM   #18
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Interesting timing on this thread:

I went to see my Dr for a hand/wrist problem that I figured was an old nasty mtn bike injury rearing it's arthritic head, so to speak. Well, after a couple of tests,(including an EMG) and visits to the neurologist, he calls me at home two weeks ago (as my one month old daughter is sleeping in my arms and my 23 month old daughter plays at my feet) and tells me I have Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS).

ALS seems to take you in 2-5 years, and I've had the symptoms since last winter.

My plan, since you asked, is to go hard enough to have fun, but not push the envelope: I don't want to get inured and then have "down time" taking up what little time I have left.

The problem is choosing between time on the bikes and boats vs time holding and running around with my daughters and wife. I figured I've ridden and paddled most my life, so usually I'll be holding the little ones wishing they could actually remember it.
Sucks to be you!




and here I thought I was challenged by arthritic spinal degeneration,atrial fibrillation, and testicular cancer, with the standard prostate issues,,,heck,, I got nuthin on you bro!,,,go with it! (I can be flippant, because I have no children)
Yer born,,ya live, and ya die!,,make a mark!
Spend as much time as you can with your kids,,insert yourself into their total makeup, make them aware of your unfailing love!
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:41 AM   #19
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when it is time to go,,
I try to use the proper facility,,
but, at my age and my issues,when it is time,as in,there is no time!,pee NOW!
,I'll go beside my bike, in a parking lot,squatted down beside the bike, in Elko, Nevada! pretending to check the forward framus plate,,Hmmm,,seems to be leaking some fluid,,
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:04 AM   #20
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pow. That is a punch in the face out of now where if I ever heard one. Spend the time with your family.
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Interesting timing on this thread:

I went to see my Dr for a hand/wrist problem that I figured was an old nasty mtn bike injury rearing it's arthritic head, so to speak. Well, after a couple of tests,(including an EMG) and visits to the neurologist, he calls me at home two weeks ago (as my one month old daughter is sleeping in my arms and my 23 month old daughter plays at my feet) and tells me I have Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS).

ALS seems to take you in 2-5 years, and I've had the symptoms since last winter.

My plan, since you asked, is to go hard enough to have fun, but not push the envelope: I don't want to get inured and then have "down time" taking up what little time I have left.

The problem is choosing between time on the bikes and boats vs time holding and running around with my daughters and wife. I figured I've ridden and paddled most my life, so usually I'll be holding the little ones wishing they could actually remember it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:58 PM   #21
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I generally agree with IDAHandy, but WSR has given me food for thought...

Some people wonder about the meaning of life, why we're here, etc. I think they're missing the point. Life, itself, is the gift. You don't have to die to meet god.

When it's time to go, really go, I doubt I'll have much say in how it happens. To some that's unacceptable. To me, to use an overused cliche, it is what it is. While we make choices every day, overall, we don't actually have a lot of choices in life. Just live.

Oh, and is it beautiful because it is, or is it beautiful because we've been told it is? Most human beings seem to have an innate sense of beauty. Despite wildly different values in what is physically beautiful in people, worldwide, people do seem to feel that mountains and exposed faces of rock are inherently beautiful. Why? You can argue what is beautiful, just as Persig argues what is quality. I don't think it really matters, nor do I early care. Contemplating the beautiful brings joy, that's enough reason for me. Seek beauty and joy, and as a bonus act with grace. What better reason to live?
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:21 PM   #22
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I generally agree with IDAHandy, but WSR has given me food for thought...

Some people wonder about the meaning of life, why we're here, etc. I think they're missing the point. Life, itself, is the gift. You don't have to die to meet god.

When it's time to go, really go, I doubt I'll have much say in how it happens. To some that's unacceptable. To me, to use an overused cliche, it is what it is. While we make choices every day, overall, we don't actually have a lot of choices in life. Just live.

Oh, and is it beautiful because it is, or is it beautiful because we've been told it is? Most human beings seem to have an innate sense of beauty. Despite wildly different values in what is physically beautiful in people, worldwide, people do seem to feel that mountains and exposed faces of rock are inherently beautiful. Why? You can argue what is beautiful, just as Persig argues what is quality. I don't think it really matters, nor do I early care. Contemplating the beautiful brings joy, that's enough reason for me. Seek beauty and joy, and as a bonus act with grace. What better reason to live?

Well put Felix, glad you chimed in.


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Interesting timing on this thread:

I went to see my Dr for a hand/wrist problem that I figured was an old nasty mtn bike injury rearing it's arthritic head, so to speak. Well, after a couple of tests,(including an EMG) and visits to the neurologist, he calls me at home two weeks ago (as my one month old daughter is sleeping in my arms and my 23 month old daughter plays at my feet) and tells me I have Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS).

ALS seems to take you in 2-5 years, and I've had the symptoms since last winter.

My plan, since you asked, is to go hard enough to have fun, but not push the envelope: I don't want to get inured and then have "down time" taking up what little time I have left.

The problem is choosing between time on the bikes and boats vs time holding and running around with my daughters and wife. I figured I've ridden and paddled most my life, so usually I'll be holding the little ones wishing they could actually remember it.
Fuck.

Just fucking brutal. Punch in the face indeed.

I'm with Peter, man; insert yourself in their lives as best you can- they'll remember. Cheers to you and yours, thanks for sharing and putting some reality in this here innerweb.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:47 PM   #23
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.....ALS seems to take you in 2-5 years, and I've had the symptoms since last winter.
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....Yer born,,ya live, and ya die!,,make a mark!
Spend as much time as you can with your kids,,insert yourself into their total makeup, make them aware of your unfailing love!
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I'm with Peter, man; insert yourself in their lives as best you can- they'll remember. Cheers to you and yours, thanks for sharing and putting some reality in this here innerweb.
Motos, boats, or kids,....hmmmm
I also have no kids, so my choice is easy.
I would go with the kids

...and take them to see the NW's beauty, willya?
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:53 PM   #24
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Interesting timing on this thread:

I went to see my Dr for a hand/wrist problem that I figured was an old nasty mtn bike injury rearing it's arthritic head, so to speak. Well, after a couple of tests,(including an EMG) and visits to the neurologist, he calls me at home two weeks ago (as my one month old daughter is sleeping in my arms and my 23 month old daughter plays at my feet) and tells me I have Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS).

ALS seems to take you in 2-5 years, and I've had the symptoms since last winter.

My plan, since you asked, is to go hard enough to have fun, but not push the envelope: I don't want to get inured and then have "down time" taking up what little time I have left.

The problem is choosing between time on the bikes and boats vs time holding and running around with my daughters and wife. I figured I've ridden and paddled most my life, so usually I'll be holding the little ones wishing they could actually remember it.
T. - ....don't know you, but still, I'm speechless. That's a helluva burden, glad you have a family and loved ones that will support you. Make the most of the time pal. Makes me want to go home early on this sunny day and hug my dog (DINK's).
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:12 PM   #25
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Interesting timing on this thread:

I went to see my Dr for a hand/wrist problem that I figured was an old nasty mtn bike injury rearing it's arthritic head, so to speak. Well, after a couple of tests,(including an EMG) and visits to the neurologist, he calls me at home two weeks ago (as my one month old daughter is sleeping in my arms and my 23 month old daughter plays at my feet) and tells me I have Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS).

ALS seems to take you in 2-5 years, and I've had the symptoms since last winter.

My plan, since you asked, is to go hard enough to have fun, but not push the envelope: I don't want to get inured and then have "down time" taking up what little time I have left.

The problem is choosing between time on the bikes and boats vs time holding and running around with my daughters and wife. I figured I've ridden and paddled most my life, so usually I'll be holding the little ones wishing they could actually remember it.

Hit it hard man and don't wait too long.

My friend Pat went from being one of the happiest and healthiest 45 y.o. human beings on the planet to sitting in a chair in his living room barely able to walk six months after he was diagnosed w brain cancer and died last month 14 months after his initial diagnosis.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:22 AM   #26
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T, I'm sorry to hear this. If it was me, keep in mind I'm a family guy my vote is for the family. The time you will spend with your family is precous. It's hard to tell how much the kids will remember, but the memories that you will leave your wife with, the pictures that tell the kids your legacy will last for ever, and then so will you.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:43 PM   #27
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Thanks, Guys. Yeah, I think I'm trying to ride just enough to keep my sanity and keep some semblance of health, but for the most part it's rolling around on the floor with the chitlins' for me.

Fun nugget of the day: I didn't know Steven Hawking's nickname is "Rolling Thunder". That guy is a bad ass in more ways than one.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:45 PM   #28
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Thanks, Guys. Yeah, I think I'm trying to ride just enough to keep my sanity and keep some semblance of health, but for the most part it's rolling around on the floor with the chitlins' for me.

Fun nugget of the day: I didn't know Steven Hawking's nickname is "Rolling Thunder". That guy is a bad ass in more ways than one.
is there any chance that the time line is longer then the doc said?
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:20 PM   #29
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is there any chance that the time line is longer then the doc said?

Ask me in a couple of years.

We have plans to go to the Mayo Clinic in Minneapolis. They are always finding other clinic's screw ups, so...

One thing in particular that may increase my "able" years is that I just found a current study on clinicaltrials.gov that is to have a conclusion by December regarding a hypothesis that a Ketogenic diet slows the progression of ALS. I have unwittingly been doing a Ketogenic diet since last April just for fitness reasons, and have never felt better (Lost 55 lbs, and have been mtn biking like the wind, better than I have in the last 10 yrs- it was literally the fountain of youth for me. (I began it after my symptoms started, not knowing my symptoms were actually symptoms yet).

We shall see. Thanks for your concern.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:42 PM   #30
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Interesting timing on this thread:

I went to see my Dr for a hand/wrist problem that I figured was an old nasty mtn bike injury rearing it's arthritic head, so to speak. Well, after a couple of tests,(including an EMG) and visits to the neurologist, he calls me at home two weeks ago (as my one month old daughter is sleeping in my arms and my 23 month old daughter plays at my feet) and tells me I have Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS).

ALS seems to take you in 2-5 years, and I've had the symptoms since last winter.

My plan, since you asked, is to go hard enough to have fun, but not push the envelope: I don't want to get inured and then have "down time" taking up what little time I have left.

The problem is choosing between time on the bikes and boats vs time holding and running around with my daughters and wife. I figured I've ridden and paddled most my life, so usually I'll be holding the little ones wishing they could actually remember it.


Just know that you are loved, and love them back. You're one of my faves and we haven't ridden enough.
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