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Old 11-16-2012, 01:30 PM   #16
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I had Woody convert my stock rear wheel to a tubeless. Looks like he did it with silicone and strapping tape and Goop. 8 months now and it holds air just fine. So then I had Woody build me a super-laced Excel rim (19") and now I am all tubeless all the time. He gave my friends and me a tour of his facility. He is a trip. pk
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:10 PM   #17
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I had Woody convert my stock rear wheel to a tubeless. Looks like he did it with silicone and strapping tape and Goop. 8 months now and it holds air just fine. So then I had Woody build me a super-laced Excel rim (19") and now I am all tubeless all the time. He gave my friends and me a tour of his facility. He is a trip. pk

This was on a F650GS ? Do you carry a tube with you or are you betting on the Woody fix. I'm just curious because I hate the F650GS wheels. Sometimes I ride my R1150R when I'd rather ride my 650, just because I don't want to have to screw with a flat on the 650 in the middle of nowhere.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:38 AM   #18
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this was on my 09 800GS.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:58 AM   #19
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I looked over Woodies selections at a MC event and I was impressed. I bring an AdvDesignes tool kit with me, tire pump, and tire irons, and patch kit and extra tubes, on any long trip. If I am going off pavement I add a bottle of slime so I don't have to screw with replacing a tube in the boonies. In 35k miles I have had only one flat. As soon as the tires wear out I am going to ship my wheels to woodies. Dave
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:31 PM   #20
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tool kit tire repair items- cheap and worth the space

Priceless items to include in your flat tire kit for in the bush tube changes -
1. Bar of soap(hotel size works) - beads are a bitch on k60
2. Not just a valve stem core extractor but a valve stem puller
3. 21 inch tube will work in a rear tire but a 19 tube will not work in the front - if you plan on carrying only 1tube
4. A SPOT device- I don't have one yet- but its a must for lone wolf riders.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:58 PM   #21
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These obviously can be repaired on the side of the road or in the boonies. Its no fun and you'll likely curse the bike, but if you're gonna ride a bike with spokes wheels you better learn how to work on tires or just stay close to home and never utilize the bike to its potential.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:40 PM   #22
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tubes?

i just rode 2000miles on a 2 flats - i didnt even know they were flat until i went to air down before going off road- those r stiff ass tyres because i was going at least 85 on highway- the original k60s are impressive. they had almost 10k on them
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:19 AM   #23
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I don't know if this is a solution, but I normally run with Hidenau's front and rear. I say "normally" because some punk turned in front of me and totaled my beloved '11 F800GS.

I'm now on a '14 F800GSA with Anakee tires. The Anakee's are fine, but I've already gotten a flat with only 1500 (s)miles. I'm eager to mount the Hidenau's because they're made out of Hockey Pucks, last 10,000 (s)miles, and can run flat if needed (though that never happened during the 40,000 (s)miles that I had them on my '11.

The other benefit of Hidenau's is that you're going to need a 12 foot tire iron and a pet gorilla to change them. In other words, you aren't going to change them in the field. So you can leave all that gear at home and save some space in the panniers.

The Hidenau's hit a harmonic at about 20 mph, but it's brief and doesn't affect the bike at all. The confidence they provide is well worth it.

Hidenau's all the way. And back.
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:12 AM   #24
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Anyone experience "Ride-On" tire sealer/balancer?
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:55 AM   #25
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You should see the looks on your friends face when you're in the middle of nowhere and you pull out the patch kit to fix his flat tyre after stripping the wheel and there's no glue in the brand new glue tube...and it's the only one you have.

Priceless. I got him on video. He has threatened to sue if I upload it.
Had that experience too. The glue in these cheapy patch kits goes bad and dries up pretty quickly even if the tube has not been opened. Really need to check and refresh them every few months...
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:39 AM   #26
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I am not a big fan of patching.
I do carry patches for situations that may arise but much prefer to carry to light weight tubes and 3 - 16" motion pro tire irons, breaker bar and sockets and CO2 cartridges in my tool tube at all times.
17" long x 4" diameter custom tool tube with hinged cover.
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Old 11-27-2014, 09:32 AM   #27
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I had Woody convert my stock rear wheel to a tubeless. Looks like he did it with silicone and strapping tape and Goop. 8 months now and it holds air just fine. So then I had Woody build me a super-laced Excel rim (19") and now I am all tubeless all the time. He gave my friends and me a tour of his facility. He is a trip. pk

I sealed the spoke wheels on my KLR 650 a few thous miles ago. Now
I carry a plug kit and a little compressor. It takes about 15 minutes
get going now after picking up a nail....much of the time being spent looking for the nail....
It cost $8.00 to seal both wheels. $6.00 for a tube of Goop, and $4.00 for
two valve stems. A friend sealed his Triumph Tiger wheels the same way over 30K miles ago.

The only reason that I know of not to seal, is very hard riding (motocross)
resulting in loose spokes that often need tightening or replacing...
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Old 11-27-2014, 09:54 AM   #28
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For hard off road rocky trails tubes are way better.
Buddies sealed spoke wheels from Woody's tend to deflate on hard hits as the bead breaks momentarily and the air escapes.
We have since gone back to tubes on those wheels.
Other issue is if you dent the rim in the rocks it may not seal on the bead and then you will need a tube to get out.
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Old 11-27-2014, 11:52 AM   #29
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Anyone experience "Ride-On" tire sealer/balancer?
I use it in all my tires. Its fantastic and WAY better than my experience with slime. Slime is ok for really small punctures but mine are usually nails out here and all the slime does is make a huge f'n mess. Ride-On balances beautifully, and will seal a nail hole no problem. Even better, it doesn't get everywhere (forms a strip on the deepest part of the tire only and cleans up easily with soap and water.

In regards to going tubeless. The front wheel will accommodate a Tubeliss system. I use them on my KTM and its a fantastic product. Unfortunately the 17" rear is too wide for their system so you have to go another route. Both are on my list of things to do. A 10 minute plug job is sooooo nice compared to tube repair/replacement.
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Old 11-27-2014, 01:41 PM   #30
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Great thread I just had my first flat and chickened out and got the bike shop to change it for me as I don't have the tools. I will get some tyre irons and give it a go next time.
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