F800GS Pannier design considerations.

[mustardfj40]

Originally Posted by donnh

Removed the Trax system (see previous post) and installed the Caribou with HB rack. Just came back from a one week offroad trip in Idaho. I didn't crash but gave the panniers a good workout. No problems so far.





My wife has the soft bags and they work great. I might get a set for more aggressive trips


Of course the Trax Panniers might be better for hauling firewood......

What's the size/model of your pelican topcase? Thanks

[gbtw]

Originally Posted by toowheels

Hey Dave!

Sorry I wasn't paying attention...for a while...!!

From what I'm hearing from GL the capacity of the "side panniers" has been increased a bit over what you see up above too. I still haven't seen the new version though. So to answer your question as best as I can:
in size, capacity and price the new side panniers will be the flagship. They do leave the top somewhat open (again I haven't seen the production version) to have a pelican type case up top (I didn't). They do have some really cool features too.

The form of them will still not really rival the Great Basin in terms of low profile and if you don't need the extra capacity (and I have seen a small hardbox mounted behind them, but you have to judge the space for yourself) then the GB is an awesome, sleek, stable, tough piece of kit. For me the GB and the smaller Coyote Dry Bag fits all my gear very well for any conditions...but I'll have to reserve the final judgement on the finished product...it's a tough one



EICMA is Nov 15-18 so we should know soon! I'll post any info I'm able to as soon as I can!

Thanks,

Dave

Looks like they are called the Siskiyou Panniers.

http://giantloopmoto.blogspot.nl/201...-products.html

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/g...kiyou-panniers

http://www.giantloopmoto.com/collect...kiyou-panniers

price is steep but they look nice!

[NotSoPlainJane]

Originally Posted by RedHawk47

I have expanded my list of the pannier system specs I have collected for the F800GS and F650GS to include price and weight. Because I am obsessing on the width issue I have also included my calculation of liters capacity per inch of width. Most manufacturers don't publish the weight:

35.25” MotoSport w/26L cases, 52L total, $960, 1.48 L/in
40.25: MotoSport w/37L cases, 74L total $960, 1.84 L/in
39” Caribou 35L cases, 70L total, $770, 33 lbs, 1.79L/in
40” Caribou 36L on SW Motec EVO racks, 72L total, $788.46, 32 lbs, 1.80 L/in
40.1” Touratech 29L+35L cases, 64L total, $1190, 1.60 L/in
40.8” Touratech 34L+41L cases, 75L total, $1699, 1.84 L/in
36” HappyTrail 61L total, cliff cut (other sizes/widths available), $823+/-, 1.69 L/in typical
33” Jesse 8” Safari 68L total, $1250, 2.06 L/in
37” Jesse 10” Odyssey 90 total, $1150, 2.43 L/in
36.2” BMW Vario, collapsed, 47L total, 1.30 L/in
40.6” BMW Vario, expanded, 67L total, $?, 1.65 L/in
42.5” BMW Aluminum , 82L total, $?, 1.93 L/in
?? Metal Mule, 38L cases, 76L total, $2250 including muffler required for narrower width.

Jesse’s are definitely the winner on liters per inch of width.

If you have more info on these systems or other systems please post to this thread or PM me.

I just bought a 700 GS and I think it is about the same as the 800 but lower......The BMW Vario bags cost me $760 .... BMW seems to have taken a page from HD marketing.....the new bikes come with the BMW mounts already on the bike....joy

[LuigiWarrior]

Hi,
my new alu panniers with the 33 liters top case by MyTech. This version is the Raid Compact 33/39 liters, total 104 cm (41 inch) fixed on frame with internal quick release.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1035900...TechAluPannier

for more info http://www.mtechaccessories.com/eng/..._39l_/104.html

[JRWooden]

Originally Posted by NotSoPlainJane

I just bought a 700 GS and I think it is about the same as the 800 but lower......The BMW Vario bags cost me $760 .... BMW seems to have taken a page from HD marketing.....the new bikes come with the BMW mounts already on the bike....joy

Jane:
At least a few of us think the Varios are not bad choices ... I've had a set for several years now

1) While others say they are not robust, and I'll admit they are not as robust as some ... mine have held up well.
2) the variable size is, at least to me, an excellent feature - summer I'm compressed, winter or end of vacation trip with gifts ... I'm expanded
3) the mounting clips are break-away so tend to save the bag in a fall
4) Bags are easy to get on and off the bike once you get the hang of it.
4) the mounting racks are very UNobtrusive when the bags are off the bike

Say what you will about the bags, but I the mounting frames are quite clever and don't destroy the lines of the bike when the bags are off....

What has amazed me is that no 3rd-parties have ever built bag sets to use the vario mounting frames...

[sturgeon]

Originally Posted by JRWooden

What has amazed me is that no 3rd-parties have ever built bag sets to use the vario mounting frames...

I'm currently talking to my architectural blacksmith pal to build me an auxiliary rack out of stainless tubing to make it easier to carry soft panniers. It's pretty simple, but I don't have the skills to build it. It'd just hook on the lower rail and bolt into the spot that holds the mushroom for the Vario upper mount.

Not quite what you're talking about, I know, but I'd think it would be easy to adapt something like that to 3rd-party hard cases as well. Now that the 2013 models come with the Vario rack as standard, I'd expect to see someone start making these for sale. (Mine will be a one-off).

[vtbob]

Jane

Nice bit of info. on bags and width. vs liters.

FWIW when i went thru this 3 years ago, I ended up with Jesse due the criteria you have laid out.

I bought Jesse factory seconds $750 with the mounts. (these had no damage but apparently had be used is some show and had HUGE Jesse decal all over them. A few minutes with a hair dryer got the decals off

call the factory....maybe they have something

[JRWooden]

Originally Posted by sturgeon

I'm currently talking to my architectural blacksmith pal to build me an auxiliary rack out of stainless tubing to make it easier to carry soft panniers. It's pretty simple, but I don't have the skills to build it. It'd just hook on the lower rail and bolt into the spot that holds the mushroom for the Vario upper mount.

Not quite what you're talking about, I know, but I'd think it would be easy to adapt something like that to 3rd-party hard cases as well. Now that the 2013 models come with the Vario rack as standard, I'd expect to see someone start making these for sale. (Mine will be a one-off).

Sounds good.............. send pictures when complete

[gbtw]

They Look pretty good :) Still have to mount a heatshield and rear bag platform thingy ( so i can also carry a baggage roll) but is nice so far :)

[EPMD]

Mounting system and finishing touches on these Pelican cases is excellent. Interface with the Hepco & Becker racks is extremely positive. Narrower profile than many other setups.

See the link for more pics!
http://therosshallproject.blogspot.com/

[JRWooden]

What size top case is that - Pelican 1520 ?

That's what I have now ... and wish I had one or two sizes larger...

[EPMD]

Originally Posted by JRWooden

What size top case is that - Pelican 1520 ?

That's what I have now ... and wish I had one or two sizes larger...

Yes Pelican 1520. I actually wish it was a size or two smaller.

EP

[JRWooden]

Originally Posted by EPMD

Yes Pelican 1520. I actually wish it was a size or two smaller.

EP

Since I never have a passenger, I have mine mounted farther forward to get a better center-of-gravity and also avoid the question motorcycles always ask:

"Does this top case make my butt look fat?"