Please save the MCE Karoo!

morabo · 11-13-2012, 03:02 PM

Munich 12/11/2012 12:00 - Metzeler introduces the new Karoo™ 3 On/Off Enduro Tyres.
The new knobby tyre from the manufacturer with the elephant logo will be on sale from spring 2013 and will REPLACE the MCE Karoo and MCE Karoo T models...

http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/news...onth&word=word
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And that's what we have to stop!
The new Karoo3 will surely be a great tyre but mostly for adventure travels.
But the original MCE Karoo is the best performance off-road tyre for most big enduro bikes and the new model won't change anything about it.
Our message to the manufacturer is: Keep them both and save the original MCE Karoo, please!!!

http://www.facebook.com/SaveTheMceKaroo

Please share and like this page, post your opinion, your experience or your pictures and videos with the original Karoo and try to help us saving it!!!

Goti · 11-13-2012, 03:30 PM

Looks promising, at least for my needs; I like tires like TKC but I have to stick with rear Scorps since I need to do hundred (...sometimes thousad) of Km to reach the off road trails. TKC and Karoo don't last, and I hate the K60 so...

Goti · 11-13-2012, 03:46 PM

BTW, they also fit the new 1190 "Touring"

Front:
110/80 – 19 M/C 59R TL M+S
120/70 R 19 M/C 60T TL M+S
90/90 – 21 M/C 54R TL M+S

Rear:
150/70 – 17 M/C 69R TL M+S
170/60 R 17 M/C 72T TL M+S
130/80 – 17 M/C 65R M+S
140/80 – 17 M/C 69R M+S
140/80 – 18 M/C 70R M+S
150/70 – 18 M/C 70R M+S

Nowwhat · 11-13-2012, 08:36 PM

Ahh the Karoo....when you need a rear tire that will last 400 miles....

dunerat · 11-13-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nowwhat

Ahh the Karoo....when you need a rear tire that will last 400 miles....

hey ..i got 1000out of mine

charlie264 · 11-14-2012, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowwhat

Ahh the Karoo....when you need a rear tire that will last 400 miles....

+1 The rear Karoo 2 T is shit off road....700 miles and done.

Moronic · 11-14-2012, 04:53 AM

These look brilliant for the Australian north.

(Not that I am qualified to judge. But is appears they have big enough grooves to work in soft stuff, while keeping the knobs fairly stable for endurance on hard stuff.)

Wonder how low you can safely run the pressures on a tubeless? Any guesses?

genghis9021 · 11-14-2012, 06:18 AM

Lasted 6500 miles with a Tubliss system on the front wheel of a KTM ADV 950 from Beyneu, KZ to UB, Mongolia via the 'Stans and plenty of off-road. Could easily be pushed another 1000 miles on tarmac.

Stiffer sidewall (by far) than the 21" TKC and much cheaper.

I really like them on the front.

cristi-mic · 11-15-2012, 05:25 AM

After 5 sets of Karoo T, I was thinking that it's my tire for life...although this new Karoo 3 is nice, I really wish they keep the old Karoo's. Oh...and every set lasted at least 10.000km.

Goti · 11-15-2012, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cristi-mic

Oh...and every set lasted at least 10.000km.

A rear Karoo T on a 950/990? I can't get that Km even from a Scorpion...

Pete640 · 11-15-2012, 06:23 PM

The Karoo is at best an average performer and doesnt last that long even with a gentle right hand. Almost scary off road so I say any change for the better is a plus. Give me a desert or 908 for the rear any day. Scorp rallyes are 2nd in line IMO.

cristi-mic · 11-17-2012, 05:30 AM

Sorry, they last at least 10.000km on my Super Tenere 850, always with passenger and with a lot of (successful) off-road.

http://www.youtube.com/user/cristimi...e=results_main

charlie264 · 11-17-2012, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cristi-mic

Sorry, they last at least 10.000km on my Super Tenere 850, always with passenger and with a lot of (successful) off-road.

http://www.youtube.com/user/cristimi...e=results_main

Which tyre, Karroo, Karoo 2, or Karoo 2 (T), I found the Karoo 2 T surprisingly good on the slab, poor off road when partly worn. 1000 miles, the rear was done.

Kirtsky · 11-17-2012, 12:05 PM

I found that too. Karoo T on the front and after wear, it goes bad in soft stuff. Mefo SE
rear still good, well outlasting the Karoo front. This tire looks interesting though.

But, I know how it feels when a tire just seems to work for you, so I'll send a note!

11-13-2012, 03:02 PM	#1
morabo ^OP save the karoo! Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Praha, Czech rep. Oddometer: 105	Please save the MCE Karoo! Munich 12/11/2012 12:00 - Metzeler introduces the new Karoo™ 3 On/Off Enduro Tyres. The new knobby tyre from the manufacturer with the elephant logo will be on sale from spring 2013 and will REPLACE the MCE Karoo and MCE Karoo T models... http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/news...onth&word=word --- And that's what we have to stop! The new Karoo3 will surely be a great tyre but mostly for adventure travels. But the original MCE Karoo is the best performance off-road tyre for most big enduro bikes and the new model won't change anything about it. Our message to the manufacturer is: Keep them both and save the original MCE Karoo, please!!! http://www.facebook.com/SaveTheMceKaroo Please share and like this page, post your opinion, your experience or your pictures and videos with the original Karoo and try to help us saving it!!! __________________ Please help us saving the MCE Karoo! http://www.facebook.com/SaveTheMceKaroo ----- For those who want to know how my daily ride to work looks like ;-) : http://vimeo.com/54363864

11-13-2012, 03:30 PM	#2
Goti Studly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Santiago, Chile Oddometer: 795	Looks promising, at least for my needs; I like tires like TKC but I have to stick with rear Scorps since I need to do hundred (...sometimes thousad) of Km to reach the off road trails. TKC and Karoo don't last, and I hate the K60 so... __________________ KTM 990 Adv

11-13-2012, 03:46 PM	#3
Goti Studly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Santiago, Chile Oddometer: 795	BTW, they also fit the new 1190 "Touring" Front: 110/80 – 19 M/C 59R TL M+S 120/70 R 19 M/C 60T TL M+S 90/90 – 21 M/C 54R TL M+S Rear: 150/70 – 17 M/C 69R TL M+S 170/60 R 17 M/C 72T TL M+S 130/80 – 17 M/C 65R M+S 140/80 – 17 M/C 69R M+S 140/80 – 18 M/C 70R M+S 150/70 – 18 M/C 70R M+S __________________ KTM 990 Adv

11-13-2012, 08:36 PM	#4
Nowwhat I'll Go Second... Joined: Mar 2007 Location: On the Ground Laughing Oddometer: 3,667	Ahh the Karoo....when you need a rear tire that will last 400 miles.... __________________ MTS 1200 Pikes Peak....Touring Beast 950SE......Desert Beast 'Berg 570..Trail Beast

11-14-2012, 04:53 AM	#7
Moronic Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Oddometer: 1,115	These look brilliant for the Australian north. (Not that I am qualified to judge. But is appears they have big enough grooves to work in soft stuff, while keeping the knobs fairly stable for endurance on hard stuff.) Wonder how low you can safely run the pressures on a tubeless? Any guesses? __________________ Sorting out the S4Rs Ohlins shock: click here.

11-14-2012, 06:18 AM	#8
genghis9021 Arak Connoisseur Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Chiang Mai, Thailand & NORCAL Oddometer: 190	Karoo2 (not 'T') Lasted 6500 miles with a Tubliss system on the front wheel of a KTM ADV 950 from Beyneu, KZ to UB, Mongolia via the 'Stans and plenty of off-road. Could easily be pushed another 1000 miles on tarmac. Stiffer sidewall (by far) than the 21" TKC and much cheaper. I really like them on the front. __________________ 2011 Husky TE 630 2011 Husaberg FE 570S 2006 KTM 950 'S' ADV 2005 Suzuki DRZ 400 SM "The perfect is the enemy of the good." Orange, it's the new black Tour.

11-15-2012, 05:25 AM	#9
cristi-mic Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Tulcea, ROMANIA Oddometer: 94	After 5 sets of Karoo T, I was thinking that it's my tire for life...although this new Karoo 3 is nice, I really wish they keep the old Karoo's. Oh...and every set lasted at least 10.000km. __________________ http://cristi-mic.blogspot.com/

11-15-2012, 06:23 PM	#11
Pete640 I hate sand....... Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Sanding something in the shed... Oddometer: 1,101	The Karoo is at best an average performer and doesnt last that long even with a gentle right hand. Almost scary off road so I say any change for the better is a plus. Give me a desert or 908 for the rear any day. Scorp rallyes are 2nd in line IMO. __________________ Pete For those who sit at home and dream - let them... Meoni 03 950 Adventure RR - aux tanks and other bling http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611461

11-17-2012, 05:30 AM	#12
cristi-mic Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Tulcea, ROMANIA Oddometer: 94	Sorry, they last at least 10.000km on my Super Tenere 850, always with passenger and with a lot of (successful) off-road. http://www.youtube.com/user/cristimi...e=results_main __________________ http://cristi-mic.blogspot.com/

11-17-2012, 12:05 PM	#14
Kirtsky Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2008 Location: Warner Robins, Ga. Oddometer: 236	I found that too. Karoo T on the front and after wear, it goes bad in soft stuff. Mefo SE rear still good, well outlasting the Karoo front. This tire looks interesting though. But, I know how it feels when a tire just seems to work for you, so I'll send a note! __________________ *!!!950 SE!!!*

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