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Old 11-17-2012, 12:24 PM   #7216
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Bruno, any way of getting a DS sidecar rig where you're going or too tight? Gotta have a full-on 2 track width for this:



Fastdadio asked, so here's the story on the sidecar rig. Bought a used Goldwing 1800 a couple years ago for my wife to come along. She's only 4'10", so was looking at the back of my head all day. Understandably she didn't like that too much after a while. Thought a sidecar rig might work out, so took a test ride in one and she said yes, that's mo betta. So last year about this time I found a sidecar on Craigslist. Was attached to a 1972 Honda CB350F (pretty much impossible to find a sidecar loose from a bike/separately), so fixed up both the 350F and sidecar over last winter. My website has pix.

Well, if you recall this spring we had an early warm period. We went for a ride and it was obvious to both of us that the little 350F was working it's guts out hauling us along. It was such a cool little bike I couldn't murder it being a sidecar tug (the original owner weighed about 150 and rode the rig empty 99% of the time, so it was fine for him), so we bought this 2006 KLR as a tug. I already knew KLRs stem to stern from my '08, and it would be just what we needed: a torque tractor, simple, dead-nuts reliable, etc. So we bolted the Velorex 562 sidecar (fiberglass, intended for light duty road use) to the KLR. Worked out really well, and gave us a chance to get on some dirt roads and forest paths a bit. That was when it became evident we really needed a more sturdy sidecar for "full-on" DS use. The Velorex was just too light duty for offroad use. We don't intend to do 20mph through whoops on the the thing, but we also don't want to bend an axle or break something on a rotted out forest road in the Arizona desert going to see some Indian ruins or something.

So, since we'd had enough time in the Velorex/KLR rig to know that we really did want to dive in headlong into a full-on DS sidecar setup, I sold the Velorex and we contracted with a sidecar specialist in Pennsylvania (Claude Stanley Motorsport, known as CSM) to buy the used Sputnik he had and have him fabricate and attach the custom subframe and etc. between the KLR and the Sputnik. So I brought the KLR to him in PA in the first week of July, and 7 weeks later went and picked up the rig you see here (minus the stripes on the car...I added those later to "tie in" the sidecar to the bike a little more). Spent about 3 weeks fiddling and adjusting things going on test rides with the wife to dial it in, and now it's ready. (Well, I still have to make "nice" versions of some of the temp stuff we did this summer sorting it out, like some padding inside the car for her knees, a custom footrest since she's too short for her legs to reach the stock one, etc., but I'll do all that this winter).

The KLR pulls us along at 60mph all day long, and works really well. It took a lot of dicking around adjusting and tweaking and such, but now it's really dialed in and is just a turnkey arrangement whether with a hack passenger or solo. Completely different riding experience from 2 wheel as there's no more leaning. Really fun to learn a new way to motorcycle! Of course I still have my other 2 wheel bikes and am not giving any of that up, but adding the sidecar rig to the stable has been really cool! And of course we get LOTS of looks and smiles and thumbs-up while riding it, and it is indeed a weird bird. I still remember the look on this one guy's face when he asked, "Is that an OFFROAD sidecar setup? Wow, I have never seen such a thing!" It really is very cool, and I/we are having a ball with it! Looking forward to getting out on some backroad rides with youse guys if the weather holds or next season!
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:35 PM   #7217
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Great ride today,

Love it when Bruno text's " just doing dirt roads today you are o.k. on your GS".
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:52 PM   #7218
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:03 PM   #7219
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Wow Andy that sidehack sure is nice. Stepping up from fixing the little Hondas eh?


Bruno - Sorry I missed your ride today. My Blackberry needs a new battery.

We need to have another ride and have Andy bring that Hack. Then I can con him into letting me ride it, since I've never riddin in or on one. There is someone on Advrider who has a 1200 GSA hack. The hack used a spoked rear wheel that matched the one one the back of the bike. Cool.

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Old 11-17-2012, 05:34 PM   #7220
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Nice ride today, and nice to meet all of you! Had a blast tearing up the KLR in the mud hole. I think some suspension tuning and tires are in order . I took a few pictures, but I have to find my cable to upload them.

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Old 11-17-2012, 07:38 PM   #7221
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Another great ride today - 8 bikes in total. Thanks to Bruno for leading us through the high rises and urban sprawl without intervention from the authorities. Here are a few shots to commemorate the days activities. The thing I remember most was picking up 1 Liter+ bikes for most of the day, including my own . . .
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:39 PM   #7222
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:51 PM   #7223
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:55 PM   #7224
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Let's see if this link to video will work. Bruno "taking the hill" on a BMW with 8 gallons of gas and 30 psi in trials tires . . .
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:59 PM   #7225
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:02 PM   #7226
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:04 PM   #7227
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Great Ride today

Bruno:

Thanks again, for putting the ride together:

Jeff fairly certain I will be at the Shell Station at 7:30, will be a cold ride on the Husky. Could take my RT (heated grips) but would have to stick to the pavement

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Old 11-17-2012, 08:12 PM   #7228
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Excellent ride today and lots of fun! Good meeting everyone today and seeing Bruno in action.

Paul - I'm good on or off the pavement so ride whatever works for you. I'll see ya at 7:30.

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Old 11-17-2012, 08:39 PM   #7229
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Man, I need to start checking this thread more often.. so i can find non pansies to ride with , a bunch of them have already put their bikes up for the season.... plus they are starting to retain sand in their vags...
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:56 AM   #7230
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I see you guys made it to the scrambles area. I was there with the KLR/Sputnik rig last Sunday when it was so warm. It did really well! Was my first sorta aggressive offroad solo run in it.
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