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Old 11-18-2012, 02:39 PM   #46
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Yamaha America hasn't been fit for purpose for decades,how their Japanese bosses allow them to continue
is a mystery.There was a famous quote on this mob from the 80's that i've forgotten,but it was something to do
with bike racing.
Ah well,America,Land of the Free........but not of choice!
yep a bunch of old men cruiser guy that didn't get the memo that dual-sports are all the rage. sure the have the wr250r but 250 is not enough for many and then they have the 1200 but that is a big fat pig for many. they failed to plug the mid-size hole and yes are doing Yamaha corporate a disservice. i had hope they would have figured it out by now, but at this point i'm convinced their clueless. my guess is they'll bring in a 800cc multi class bike with the new triple being shown and call that their mid-weight. guess we'll see?
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:16 PM   #47
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I do understand y´all given up hope for the XT660Z Tenere comin´ to the USA/Canada, what imho is a missed oppurtunity for Yamaha USA. But who knows, they'll come to their senses someday and admit they were wrong on this matter and bring it stateside...... Sometimes miracles DO happen....
Grtz., Hans.

P.s.: my Tenere at 87.500km's so far and still runnin' strong&smooth!
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:09 AM   #48
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Yamaha dealer call me at Friday that he got last 2 pcs of Yam XT660Z for 2013.
So I went there at Saturday and I spoke to him. He told, as you may know, the factory
is Spain is closed and there is a new factory in France so .. because of that, there by his
opinion, will be hard to get XT660Z in first few months of new year.
In my country, because of stupid politics, the tax will rise from 19% to 23% so motorcycles
will be more expensive and Yamaha dealer got new Tenere for 2013 and in my favourite
color Gray, so I reserved it and will pay it this week.

So guys, this is my new love, husband, girl for everything I've bought a NonABS version
due to differences to ABS version (suspension, seat heigh or min.ground clearance...)

Here I go:


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Old 12-10-2012, 02:45 PM   #49
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I do understand y´all given up hope for the XT660Z Tenere comin´ to the USA/Canada, what imho is a missed oppurtunity for Yamaha USA. But who knows, they'll come to their senses someday and admit they were wrong on this matter and bring it stateside...... Sometimes miracles DO happen....
Grtz., Hans.

P.s.: my Tenere at 87.500km's so far and still runnin' strong&smooth!
At this point many are just buying the $7000 Husqvarna TR650 Terra and have moved on thinking Yamaha is paying attention anymore. it's alot of bike for $7k and BMW hit the nail on the head with this bike for the price.

Yamaha could have really captured a nice size of the 650 dual-sport US market for the Tenere since it has been available for 5 yrs now, but the Yamaha execs in California blew it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:00 PM   #50
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Tenere' with ABS is useless because of the suspension travel has reduced
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:02 PM   #51
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Tenere' with ABS is useless because of the suspension travel has reduced
i would not say useless. maybe less dirt oriented but not useless.
abs is a huge feature for many and a shorter seat height is welcomed.
many with the abs version may ride on mostly paved or smooth dirt only.
plenty of travel for these type of road surfaces.

bmw has been extremely successful with their lowered low seat height 650gs.
it's one of the lighter bikes available with abs and for shorter people.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:12 AM   #52
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i would not say useless. maybe less dirt oriented but not useless.
abs is a huge feature for many and a shorter seat height is welcomed.
many with the abs version may ride on mostly paved or smooth dirt only.
plenty of travel for these type of road surfaces.

bmw has been extremely successful with their lowered low seat height 650gs.
it's one of the lighter bikes available with abs and for shorter people.
I get your point that most drivers have not the real demand for a suspension that could handle 100% offroad driving.
ABS is a great innovation that saves life and make you to a better driver.
The engine is near a perpetual motion machine with a lot of great bottom end power, but i sold my Tenere 08 after 3 mounth because of the heavy weight in kombination of lack of real suspension.

My friend bought the ABS modell 2011 and sold it after 3 mounth for same reason, he try to complaint at Yamaha but they say it was nothing they can do.
The only explanation they have was that the ABS construction were placed close to the rear suspension so they have to reduce the suspension travel to 160mm front and 150mm rear.

But for my driving off road combined on trails and bumby gravelroads and asfalt in between i was suprised how bad the suspension was set up even with the Tenere MY <09 without ABS wich have 200 mm travel.

My opinion XTZ with ABS= No suspension.
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