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Old 11-20-2012, 09:27 AM   #16
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I don't think I'd do WR gears on a DRZ--doesn't really have the gutts to pull wider gears imo. By the time you build the motor to pull them and buy the gears you could have bought a TE or ktm or something that's a lot better from the start--and that's what I'd do. If you like simplicity a carb'd TE610 should suit you quite well. If you want FI there's the injected TE610, TE630 and KTM690--all of which have nice wide 6spds and are great bikes.

KTM 500 isn't the one you want for lots of road work, but the 690 and the TE610-630 make rather ok street bikes. Probably less hassle to keep them running than to keep a tricked out WR or DRZ running.

Between the WR and DRZ I'd probably do a forced induction WR
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:43 AM   #17
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My ideal DS bike would def be a ktm 690 enduro R... but alas, the price tag cancels that out till my kids are out of college :)
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:30 PM   #18
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If the DRZ has the power you like, maybe get an autoclutch? Or just change sprockets for different rides. I used to change sprockets on my XR400 - could go from 14T to 16T with the same chain.

Personally I'm liking the stock WR250R. The hop-ups don't improve low rpm torque that much.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:02 PM   #19
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I vote for a used Husqvarna TE-610. Spend 3-5K and be done with it. 3000 mile oil. changes, 55hp, geared for trails and highway. Very reliable...
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:43 PM   #20
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I vote for a used Husqvarna TE-610. Spend 3-5K and be done with it. 3000 mile oil. changes, 55hp, geared for trails and highway. Very reliable...
I just found one but it's a 6 hour drive away from me! I'll see if I can swing it, otherwise I found an 07 drzSM right down the street, and there's a guy across town selling a set of S wheels for 200 bucks! I like the SM front end much better even offroad than the soft springy S front end.
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:26 PM   #21
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I saved the "which type of dual sport" for other threads. My question was regarding the 2 bikes stated, and anyone who has done the big bore on the wr, as the gearing is good, or the gearing on the DRZ because the power is already adequate for me. What the DRZ lacks for my riding is wider ratio trans, and what the wr lacks for me is down right power and torque.
You're right, I jumped to the racehorse-out-of-a-jackass post right off.

Sounds like you prefer the DR-Z, and they are plentiful, and typ cheaper than the WRR, so I'd buy a well-sorted, well-cared for DR-Z and forget the expensive gear swap.

I love my WRR, but it isn't exactly a torque-monster.
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:33 PM   #22
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Try on a DR-Z. If it can fit you, find a good deal on a used DR-Z, then add an auto-clutch and tall road gears. Build it however you want for less than the cost of a KTM or Husky. If you kill it, find another good used deal and swap your stuff.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:02 PM   #23
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I have to agree with everybody that is saying to just buy what you want because it already exists. Even my decade old KTM640 is as light as the WR250 or the DRZ and flat out smokes them in power, suspension and brakes. Both of my KTM's were bought used. I have maybe $6000 in both and they have been as reliable as a hammer. Actually more so than any Japanese dual sport I ever owned. So I just don't see going to the trouble and expense to roll your own. Buy a used 450 EXC and call it a day.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:18 PM   #24
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I might be necro bumping this, but ive entertained this idea as well. I dont think I could handle dealing with the WR's peakiness after having traveled with a DR650- I have always been a torque lover.

While the DRz isnt a DR650, I do think I could sacrifice some torque for 30 pounds less weight, more ground clearance, and longer travel suspension. I havent found the DR lacking for my uses really, but I am definitely part of the camp that constantly tries to go lighter and smaller as I progress through bikes. I cant help but feel that my trail vision would change with a lighter bike and I would see more lanes, try more trails, etc.

I am currently on the road, but I am planning a trip to South America in my head and I think it will either be on my DR650 or a DRz. With a much better seat, wider gears, a bigger tank, and the various protection bits, the DRz might be perfect in that role.

At the same time, I cant help but think of putting a 790 kit in my DR, going with a cogent rear shock, going insane on reducing weight even more than I have, and STILL spend much less.

As for those who say it approaches KTM price, consider those who dont have a DRz yet. You could buy a BEAT Drz with high woods mileage for 2500, change the wheel bearings, suspension bearings, do the suspension (revalve/respring), rebuild the motor and use the ACT WR gears, and spend maybe 6k total on the whole machine. As a dirt bike I agree- get a KTM. As a South America mount, these gears make a lot of sense.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:33 PM   #25
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Do you have a link to the trans. swap on the DRZ?
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Do you have a link to the trans. swap on the DRZ?

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/972...-no-six-speed/


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Old 08-13-2013, 08:56 AM   #28
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A WR290R feels like an entirely different bike than a WR250R. It makes a fantastic DUAL sport bike even better.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:38 AM   #29
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I might be necro bumping this...
Not sure what this is, but it sounds nasty

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I dont think I could handle dealing with the WR's peakiness after having traveled with a DR650- I have always been a torque lover.
I went from a DR650 to the WRR, and am very pleased with it. More torque at lower RPM would be nice, but no bike is perfect. The WRR just needs to be wound up.

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While the DRz isnt a DR650, I do think I could sacrifice some torque for 30 pounds less weight, more ground clearance, and longer travel suspension. I havent found the DR lacking for my uses really, but I am definitely part of the camp that constantly tries to go lighter and smaller as I progress through bikes. I cant help but feel that my trail vision would change with a lighter bike and I would see more lanes, try more trails, etc.

I am planning a trip to South America in my head and I think it will either be on my DR650 or a DRz. With a much better seat, wider gears, a bigger tank, and the various protection bits, the DRz might be perfect in that role.
I've never been to S. America, but I read lots of ride reports, and technical trails don't seem to be involved. To me, the DR650 is the ideal travel bike when gnarly off-road isn't in the picture. Since you already own one, it would be an easy decision (for me).

I think the WRR and the DR650 are both better bikes for road work than the DR-Z, due to the DR-Z's tranny. I never felt the DR650 needed a 6th gear, but everybody seems to wish for a 6th gear on the 400.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:48 AM   #30
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I went from a DR650 to the WRR, and am very pleased with it. More torque at lower RPM would be nice, but no bike is perfect. The WRR just needs to be wound up.
WR/R likes to rev and it's a blast to rev. It revs the same with the 290 kit but you also get low end torque. win/win
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