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Old 11-14-2012, 07:54 AM   #4921
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thanks for the info.
dad wants a new shed at their place. ill have to show this to him.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:27 AM   #4922
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I added these horizontal file cabinets to help clean up the garage.




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That's beautiful - I admire a clean and organized shop. The presence of a shop vac is telling - I need to get one.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:58 AM   #4923
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My Old Garage

For ten years I lived in a townhouse and squeezed my bikes and shop into an 18' x 20' garage with a double roll up door.





It had the HVAC duct work routed into it so it was cool in the summer and warm in the winter. The downside was that I had to share the space with gardening tools, Xmas decorations, other non-moto related stuff. It got crowded.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:03 AM   #4924
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New Garage

So we sold that place and moved to a house that has a 1/2 acre lot. Here is the garage - we are still unpacking and organizing.







This is a 60 year old house and has some cool stuff, like the built in shelves, but also has some of the drawbacks of an older home - like the cracking and uneven garage floor, and the driveway, which is being completely replaced.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:14 AM   #4925
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Rehab or New Construction

The house comes with this in the back of the lot -



I've moved some of my stuff into it -





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Old 11-21-2012, 08:33 AM   #4926
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It's a cool old building - 20' x 20' with a single car-width tilt up door. The electrical supply has been upgraded, it has two 8' banks of lights, a porch, the shelves.

It could be a cool man-cave with some TLC. Needs serious repair of some of the siding, maybe go with Hardy board. Put in a roll-up door, cut in a man-door where the window is. Add insulation and paneling and a ceiling, a shop sink. Roof is in good shape.

But the biggest problem is the floor. Apparently the building was built on a pier and beam perimeter foundation and the floor was poured later. The alley side of the foundation has sunk and has some cracks and the floor is crowned in the center, maybe 5" higher than the alley side, a couple of inches higher than the yard side. And the pad outside the door is sloped, and the patio under the arbor is a separate slab. In short, all the concrete work is haphazard and deteriorating.

I got a quote of $6K to level the building, fix the foundation, and pour a new floor. Add to that the cost of rehabbing the siding, walls, etc, and it seems you are approaching the cost of a new building. The foundation guy said he could put in a new foundation and floor from scratch (on a clean pad) for $4K.

My budget is $20,000. So I'm trying to figure out if I can demo this building and put in a new one, including a parking pad, for that.

Or should I live with the f'd up floor and pad and just fix up the building? I hate to pour a bunch of money into a building that's got fundamental problems. If I could get away with $5K to fix it up, I might do that, but I got numbers up to $15K for rehab the way I'd want it. And I'd still have all the floor and pad problems.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:40 AM   #4927
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Got it cleaned out enough to fit one LARGE car, 2 bikes, and a whole bunch of shelves / workbenches. Bikes aren't really accessible, but I can't ride them right now anyways. I'm impressed that, for the first time in my life, we are using a garage to park a car in nightly.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:46 AM   #4928
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Man, you guys have some cool shops. Mine is a bit more cramped. You can see my 1 car garage (more like 4/5 actually) to the left. There is a car, 2 bicycles, 2 motorcyles, and a 3x5 work bench stuffed into that 10x25 garage. When I get home from a ride, I pull the bike up the steep driveway, then slide the rear tire around so the bike is ready to go again. The 250 has been replaced by a 750 Aprilia, which requires a rear wheel stand on dolly wheels to turn it around. There really isn't a level spot on the property to build a shed.

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Old 11-21-2012, 10:37 AM   #4929
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The nice thing about a small garage is it only takes about 10 minutes to go from 20 degrees to 60 degrees with one of these.

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Old 11-21-2012, 10:38 AM   #4930
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Woa, didn't notice till I posted, but check out the heat coming off that thing!
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:39 AM   #4931
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The nice thing about a small garage is it only takes about 10 minutes to go from 20 degrees to 60 degrees with one of these.

Try not to commit heater-cide.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:10 AM   #4932
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Yeah, the front door is about half open and the ceiling fan is going full blast. I only run it about ten minutes every hour if I'm out there working, and I have a carbon monoxide detector just in case.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:28 AM   #4933
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Does anyone make a portable propane heater with an "exhaust pipe" & intake pipe? ?

It'd be cool if you could stick the exhaust under the garage door so it vents outside .. kinda like the Espar D2 works in my van.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:33 AM   #4934
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Does anyone make a portable propane heater with an "exhaust pipe" & intake pipe? ?

It'd be cool if you could stick the exhaust under the garage door so it vents outside .. kinda like the Espar D2 works in my van.
Just use an electric heater ?
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:55 AM   #4935
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Just use an electric heater ?
1500 watt electric is about 5000 btu. The pictured heater is probably 50000 - 75000 btu. The difference is huge.

There are vented propane furnaces/heaters but I don't know of any that are portable (it is a good idea, though).

I have a Kerosun vented kerosene heater, but I don't run it much - the floor stays so cold it somehow doesn't seem worth it. I use the Halogen worklights for light and heat - right on the hands, where it counts (or stay inside near the woodstove).
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