The CRF250L Owners thread

[SAPB]

Guerilla, an impact driver will get those screws out, it converts the downward hammer tap into turning motion while at the same time insuring that the bit stays in the screw. This one is "brand C": http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...32-196072104-2

[goondock]

Originally Posted by SAPB

Guerilla, an impact driver will get those screws out, it converts the downward hammer tap into turning motion while at the same time insuring that the bit stays in the screw. This one is "brand C": http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...32-196072104-2

Hey Guerilla, I second this post above, that is the exact tool I used to get mine off. i was shocked as to how tight those suckers were in there.

[goondock]

Originally Posted by DirtyBlackIrish

Good info for sure! I'd be interested on the following-up after your night ride and check for sure.

follow up about the HBD mirrors on the HBD handguards.. yes there is a little doubling at night. when you see the headlights in the mirrors you will see the main headlight with two faint headlights on each side.. not really that bad though. totally tolerable.. I have seen some other people throw some stick on mirrors over them but i don't see the need

[Ed@Ford]

Originally Posted by SAPB

Guerilla, an impact driver will get those screws out, it converts the downward hammer tap into turning motion while at the same time insuring that the bit stays in the screw. This one is "brand C": http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...32-196072104-2

I bought a similar but more compact impact that uses normal 1/4" hex bits from Harbor Freight.very inexpensive...plenty stout to do what you need....however the sears one is robust enough for bigger jobs....BUT if you haven't buggered the screw head, take your phillips, put it in the "+", and smack it a couple times with a hammer....50% of the time that will shock the threads enough come unstuck.....replace them with socket head screws

[Guerillah]

Originally Posted by goondock

Hey Guerilla, I second this post above, that is the exact tool I used to get mine off. i was shocked as to how tight those suckers were in there.

Originally Posted by Ed@Ford

I bought a similar but more compact impact that uses normal 1/4" hex bits from Harbor Freight.very inexpensive...plenty stout to do what you need....however the sears one is robust enough for bigger jobs....BUT if you haven't buggered the screw head, take your phillips, put it in the "+", and smack it a couple times with a hammer....50% of the time that will shock the threads enough come unstuck.....replace them with socket head screws

Originally Posted by Balkan Boy

Don't push it with a Philips screwdriver.
They are JIS screws. I also couldn't undo them with a Philips but they came right out with a fifth bit (left to right) in this picture.
Same on the Kawasaki.

Thanks guys! I will give it a try today with an impact and the correct bit, luckily I didn't damage the heads.

[Ed@Ford]

Originally Posted by Guerillah

Thanks guys! I will give it a try today with an impact and the correct bit, luckily I didn't damage the heads.

Yup...Balkan Boy is correct...they are not EXACTLY phillips...and the "+" is more shallow....for quick and dirty, you can grind (file) off the tip of the phillips to make sure you have a good bite in the +.....but trying a couple of smacks won't hurt...because if the bond is broken, it'll be loose enough that you don't bugger the +

[STANIMAL]

Originally Posted by Balkan Boy

Don't push it with a Philips screwdriver.
They are JIS screws. I also couldn't undo them with a Philips but they came right out with a fifth bit (left to right) in this picture.
Same on the Kawasaki.

I see a group buy on that kit in the near future.

[strongbad]

Originally Posted by Balkan Boy

Don't push it with a Philips screwdriver.
They are JIS screws. I also couldn't undo them with a Philips but they came right out with a fifth bit (left to right) in this picture.
Same on the Kawasaki.

Thanks for the link to the JIS article.

[EEKAMOUSE]

Originally Posted by Balkan Boy

Don't push it with a Philips screwdriver.
They are JIS screws. I also couldn't undo them with a Philips but they came right out with a fifth bit (left to right) in this picture.
Same on the Kawasaki.

Jealous of the wera tools

[ramz]

You won't believe how expensive Wera tools are:

Sears
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/v_10153_1...2-00000cc221e4


Chads Tool box
http://chadstoolbox.com/05347180001-...-imperial.aspx

[ramz]

Central Hobbies sells a nice set of 4 JIS screwdrivers for $17.99. I've had my set for 18 months and use it on all the screws that have a JIS dot on the head - they work great.

Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver Set (4), Item #:CHMJSDS
Unit price:$17.99 USD (Plus $8 shipping).

http://centralhobbies.com/Tools/jis.html

[STANIMAL]

Originally Posted by ramz

You won't believe how expensive Wera tools are:

Sears
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/v_10153_1...2-00000cc221e4


Chads Tool box
http://chadstoolbox.com/05347180001-...-imperial.aspx

Makes Snap On seem inexpensive.

[Guerillah]

Got it off guys, thanks for the advice. I couldnt find JIS bits locally so I tried my luck with a regular phillips head and an impact gun, worked like a charm.

[Harcomo]

Originally Posted by Guerillah

I like them, definitely free'd up some weight, difference isn't hugely noticeable but can surely be felt (as far as power). It was popping a bit after install of just the exhaust components. Once I added the fuel controller is when it opened up. I also did the airbox mods and filter mod that can be seen on bestdualsports.com . The 13 tooth front socket was also a big boost to the gearing, tons of fun in the dirt at this point. I need some better tires than stock though as they kind of suck in the sand.

How would you compare the FMF pipe's sound compared to the stock system? I've just heard a clip or two on the internet and it's hard to tell how loud it really is. I would like a new exhaust on mine but I don't want something that is obnoxiously loud to others.

[Guerillah]

Originally Posted by Harcomo

How would you compare the FMF pipe's sound compared to the stock system? I've just heard a clip or two on the internet and it's hard to tell how loud it really is. I would like a new exhaust on mine but I don't want something that is obnoxiously loud to others.

I would say this video is accurate of the sound, I did the muffler and header at the same time so i can't tell you how it would sound with the muffler alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=WveN79a7Z2g#!

At cruising speeds, it isn't loud (actually quite nice) but definitely gets loud as you crank the throttle. I should have used my dB meter to take measurements... sorry!

I'll try taking a video on Friday with audio gain control turned off (so that it doesnt try to amplify the sound).