Is Mexico Safe?

[SeanF]

Originally Posted by Turkeycreek

I'll be spending much of today in the kitchen getting ready for Thanksgiving Dinner tomorrow. It has become a tradition that I, el gringo viejo/el gringo loco prepare a traditional American Thanksgiving dinner and invite my neighbors and hotel guests. They offer to bring dishes but I politely decline. "Yes, I love your tamales but there is no need to bring them, I have so much food here. We will have some of your wonderful tamales next week. "

So Turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes with gravy, sweet potatoes, maybe some steamed carrots and calabasitos. apple and pPumpkin pie for desert. Maybe a little Bacanora after dinner.

Buen Provechvo!

Sounds like a tasty and fun tradition! Happy holidays to you & yours.

[Turkeycreek]

Originally Posted by miguelito

Mostly agree TC, except for that "count the murders on one hand" part.

The US State Department reports that 120 Americans of the 5.7 million who visited Mexico last year were murdered, which is a rate of 2.1 of 100,000 visitors. Regardless of whether they were or weren't connected to drug trafficking, which is often not clear, it's less than half the US national rate.

I'll make a distinction between visitors and tourists. There are lots of American citizens murdered in the border towns. Many are there for nefarious purposes and almost none are tourists. US DEA employees and consular employees are in the count as well. So I'll cop to under counting "on 1 hand" but 120 is too high for tourists.

[operaflute]

I said, "You're Mexican, I'm British and we don't live there anymore, so why on earth would we celebrate an American holiday?" She smiled and said, after living there 10 years it had become a habit.

Pfft. Last year I made a pork shoulder!

[Turkeycreek]

Originally Posted by tricepilot

For the hotel coffee table:
"If you’re looking for a heart-warming story that blends together some of the traditions of Latino culture with the American Thanksgiving holiday, Gracias is an excellent choice.
LINK

Thanks Trice, I'll see if I can pick one up.

[kantuckid]

Originally Posted by Snownut

That may be the case, I didn't take it personal.. I'm really not a hot head, just was rubbed wrong last week..

FWIW,I like people with a backbone.esp. the ones that are willing to take the time to explain themselves & move on.
Back to-Is Mexico safe? yes , most of the time.Is the highway safe, yes most of us make it home by exercising caution. Is the world safe for that matter? Often not, but mostly we move along with our lives and enjoy the high spots. It's all relative.
Fact: Mexico has one hell of a problem & best not to belittle it with USA ghetto comparisons.Mexico is to go & enjoy the people & the place, the ghetto is decidedly not that way. Lets put it in my personal perspective:The day will come for me to be too old to ride those long trips-@ 69 that time is in sight! Now is my time. I cannot wait until the druggies here no longer want the crap nor until the drug lords are all dead because now is my time! As long as there is a realistic notion that I'll make it home from Mexico & see my grandkids again , then I'll keep going. Say whatever about Detroit,New Orleans or some other urban cesspool/shithole place(take no offense if you live there in the burbs is most likely if at all & your on ADV)) but I'll just go on living my life with some places on my "to avoid list". FWIW, I'm a BB fan & we go to a ballpark in some of those dangerous cities now & then & try to make it a safe/smart trip. Mexico I do the same thing.
I will say that some of the Mexico statistics as Migueleto presented, are a bit skewed by the fact that most gringos that travel to Mexico are going to a "travel destination" that's a sheltered situation . If we compared Disneyland to the urban area of Orlando,i.e., the ghetto part, you'd likely get much different figures. Same as the figures from Mexico are mostly coming from Cancun type places,i.e., the hotel zone, where very sheltered trips take place.

[eakins]

i have several friends who use that facility and all say it's top notch.

Originally Posted by AK Smitty

I was the one who asked about it months ago and this is where I ended up:

http://vallartastorage.com/English/contacto.php

This place is great!! Well I guess maybe I should wait until I pick my bike up!!!

But they were great when I dropped off. Over the top professional and polite. 24 hour security and electric fence. You must sign in with photo ID to even get to your own unit. To add a person you need to email a pic. They can do all transactions through email and with CC.

I will let you know the condition of the bike on the 26th but I felt very good about everything when I left.

[bisbonian]

Originally Posted by SeanF

Sounds like a tasty and fun tradition! Happy holidays to you & yours.

Oh I certainly hope so.

Heading down in the morning.

[rockymountainoyster]

I will never forget the scene in "Giant" where the beautifully browned turkey is brought to the table and the little kids who had raised him and named him Pedro said with trembling lip "Pedro?" and grandma says "Yes dear" They came unglued. It was a memorable scene for a ten year old boy... that and the "low life" Jett Rink striking a gusher and driving up to the fancy ranch house covered in oil saying "I'm a rich'un" Bought the awl patch home at an early age.

Happy Thanksgiving to all. We are truly blessed in our lives and in this "association of comrades" (no not the pinko kind). It is a great word that got some bad cred.

Blessings,

David

[rockymountainoyster]

Perhaps the spanish companeros would have been more apt?

[acejones]

Originally Posted by rockymountainoyster

Perhaps the spanish companeros would have been more apt?

Si !

[Süsser Tod]

LOL, ¿qué?

[tricepilot]

Originally Posted by Habibi Rocks

Does anyone have particular type of helmet for Mexico ... open or full face. And Riding jacket ¿keep the winter liner in or leave it out? I ride only in the day.

Get out your wallet, remove your driver's license, and behold your "M" endorsement.

Good news! That endorsement represents that you are licensed to ride a motorcycle - and in honor of your elite status, I hereby grant you the authority to make decisions on the questions you post, and to decide all by your lonesome.

Congratulations

[MikeMike]

Flip up helmet
Extra sunglasses or use flip down sun shade but not both because you are not arc welding or viewing an eclipse
Jacket either totally mesh vented with removable liner or a well vented waterproof jacket and layer your clothing
Solid comfortable boots
Vented gloves and spare pair of regular non vented glove
Sunblock for when you are stopped, cooling vests and bandanas dont work worth a damn
Done

[Habibi Rocks]

Señor MikeMike , your well prepared.

[going south]

Originally Posted by kantuckid

FWIW,I like people with a backbone.esp. the ones that are willing to take the time to explain themselves & move on.

Any young man or any man who isn’t angry at one time or another is a waste of time. No, no. Anger is a symbol of thought and evaluation and reaction.