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Old 11-21-2012, 02:01 PM   #71371
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Took a chance on a GSXR muffler from ebay.

It is the coveted 40FO.

Description said it sounded like there were loose parts inside.

I received it today and shook it, something sounded loose. Held the 4 bolts on the end, shook it, sounded like maybe a very little loose sand inside but nothing mechanical.

The end cap bolts have very small factory welds on them so I know it hasn't been screwed with.

Am I good to go? Should I try opening it up or leave it alone?
You are good to go.
The sound is probably just some of the small pieces from the donor bikes pistons when they disintegrated.
There really is nothing inside there to come loose.
The mid baffle plate and two short tubes welded to it.
All wrapped by a perforated tube with a thin permanent sound deadener between it and the shell.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:14 PM   #71372
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Took a chance on a GSXR muffler from ebay.

It is the coveted 40FO.

Description said it sounded like there were loose parts inside.

I received it today and shook it, something sounded loose. Held the 4 bolts on the end, shook it, sounded like maybe a very little loose sand inside but nothing mechanical.

The end cap bolts have very small factory welds on them so I know it hasn't been screwed with.

Am I good to go? Should I try opening it up or leave it alone?
How much did you pay for the muffler? I'm looking at swapping too.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:23 PM   #71373
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I just got one from a Hayabusa for $30 plus shipping. Its the 24F0.

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Old 11-21-2012, 02:45 PM   #71374
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@BergDonk: As far as I know, the TM38 does not have a built-in fuel filter. I have the Aqualine tank with two petcocks and there are screens on the inside of them. I then have an inline fuel filter (paper core) where the two fuel lines meet and before it goes into the carb inlet. Good idea on viewing the float level. Will try that when I get back to civilization.

Here's an exploded view of my carb: http://www.sudco.com/Diagrams123/exptm.gif
Anything you see in there that I can fiddle with?

@Nullarbor63: thank you, my friend. You are right that I am getting hung up on it being an electrical issue but I'm open to it being related to something else. It's just that I can't diagnose that here but once I'm back to a city, I'll do a full tear down and investigate. Thanks for bringing up the cylinder head crack issue. Didn't know about that.

@greer: you have a valid point and yes, it could be the Shorai lithium-iron battery. I'll test with a regular one once I'm back to Nairobi.

@nsrrider: yeah, I dont think it's the resistor. thanks.

@Randomroad: I can't wait for that WTF moment!

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First off I have to say I highly respect you for taking on an adventure most folks would never attempt, including me. Kudo's brother
Second I would get a compression and leakdown test if at all possible....if your bike has 74k original miles on the engine this prob could very well be engine related.

Also be sure your vacuum petcock is working right if you're still running it. I always ran my vacuum petcock machines on prime and skipped the vacuum set-up alltogether...they always seemed to give me probs with leaking diaphrams and fuel starvation.....which can often seem like electrical probs.

Good luck and hope you can forge ahead with this awesome adventure
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:22 PM   #71375
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First off I have to say I highly respect you for taking on an adventure most folks would never attempt, including me. Kudo's brother
Second I would get a compression and leakdown test if at all possible....if your bike has 74k original miles on the engine this prob could very well be engine related.

Also be sure your vacuum petcock is working right if you're still running it. I always ran my vacuum petcock machines on prime and skipped the vacuum set-up alltogether...they always seemed to give me probs with leaking diaphrams and fuel starvation.....which can often seem like electrical probs.

Good luck and hope you can forge ahead with this awesome adventure
Have you actually read Jay's Ride Report? Go read it. Then you'll realize how far ahead of you Jay is. He's forgotten more about DR's than most of us know ... or will ever know. (this is his 3rd DR650)

Jay is also an engineer and a very good tinkerer in his own right. Once you've read the WHOLE Ride Report you'll know where his bike is at, what's been done ... and just how competent he really is.

Trust me, Jay is on the case ... whether it's fuel or electronics?
Are you a betting man?
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:30 PM   #71376
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You are good to go.
The sound is probably just some of the small pieces from the donor bikes pistons when they disintegrated.
There really is nothing inside there to come loose.
The mid baffle plate and two short tubes welded to it.
All wrapped by a perforated tube with a thin permanent sound deadener between it and the shell.

Sweet! $40 shipped
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:53 PM   #71377
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I have been in question about a tank vent problem also.

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Someone might have said this already: Any bike that I have had that would start when cold...run for a bit...then shut off and not re start until time has passed has for me always been a gas tank vent issue. Next time it does it make sure the tank is venting correctly. Take the cap off and try starting again. Also, make sure your fuel lines are not near the cylinder head. I never heard of a bike having fuel vapor lock from heat boiling the gas, but it sounds like you have checked everything else...

I have never been inside of a TM38 so I don't know how the float needle is hung on the float. On some carbs if the float is not hung EXACTLY how the manufacurer reccomends it can hang/stick in its little tube. Most often this results in a lean condition but still runs or will start and quit as soon as the float bowl runs out of gas. Edit: I looked at the carb link you provided...doesn't look like it can go but one way. hmmmm.....

Do we need to send an Old Priest and a Young Priest and have an exorcism? I'm sure you can find someone to swing a dead chicken over that thing! Good luck brother.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:32 AM   #71378
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Have you actually read Jay's Ride Report? Go read it. Then you'll realize how far ahead of you Jay is. He's forgotten more about DR's than most of us know ... or will ever know. (this is his 3rd DR650)

Jay is also an engineer and a very good tinkerer in his own right. Once you've read the WHOLE Ride Report you'll know where his bike is at, what's been done ... and just how competent he really is.

Trust me, Jay is on the case ... whether it's fuel or electronics?
Are you a betting man?
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:46 AM   #71379
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So im new to this forum, and new to adv riding, but am considering an adv bike for my next steed. I have just written off (not my fault) my owned from new 06 GSXR1000, and thought it might be time for a change. i loved the gixxer (had handlebars and a swag of other mods) but sadly, it was taken away from me in a accident.

Currently, 95% of my riding is commuting, but i was hoping to spend a little time exploring, now im over the need for speed. since im new to dirt (have ridden some dirtbikes in a padock, but ill still consider myself new), i was thinking of a smaller adv bike.

some options ive considered now are

DR650
KLR650
Husky TR650

I have a budget of about 11K AUD, and cant ride till mid jan at earliest next year (broken hand requiring pins and plates, and a broken wrist). as mentioned commuting in traffic, along highways (100kph) and normal streeta (60) is the norm, with the odd trip off road. Once i finish uni, and back in a high paying job, ill look at r1200gs etc, but for now, cheap, functional and good are requirements.

Here in oz, the klr and dr are about 2k cheaper than the husky, but the husky looks to be better std.

So since this is the dr thread - why should i buy a dr?
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:16 AM   #71380
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......... but for now, cheap, functional and good are requirements.
I think you summed it up. Glad you escaped with moderate injuries compared to the alternative. Your post smacks a little of "I'll consider hanging out with you poor bastards until I can afford to buy the BMW romance" but there are folks on here with unlimited resources that just love the DR for it's simplicity and just plain fun factor.

The DR vs KLR debate has been ongoing for years and there are threads about it. The new KLR is a different animal than the more dirt worthy older style (pre 2007..? ).

Some here have had both so they may chime in. Both will serve you well bone stock and will serve you a long time with minor mods. I haven't read on the Husky. I've gone off the deep end and modified my DR as much as one can without touching the basic engine. Others ride theirs with a big smile as it came off the showroom floor. That's part of the fun IMO....making it your own.

Good luck on the search and heal quickly.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:39 AM   #71381
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Hey guys,

I joined the DR650 family a couple of days ago

'06, 25,000km, came with a Sargent seat and a few other goodies. It's in great condition considering the mileage and how much I paid for it. Unfortunately I'm still on a restricted license (<250cc) so I haven't given it a good shake-down ride yet, but my mate rode it the 50km from the PO to mine and he said it rides well.

I've taken the rack off temporarily while I remove the vertical part of it (really don't like the idea of having that near my back). I've got a few mods in mind already, so I'll be going back through this thread and having a good read.

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:09 AM   #71382
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Still in progress. 3 more days ahead of us.
--> http://drriders.com/topic6350.html
Nice fix on the bushing,its fun to play with metal.
Bummer bout the swingarm cracking,has it been welded already?
I once rode my DR from Chico to DV,put a fresh 606 on the rear on a picnic table as soon as I got there,rode 400 miles in and around DV,then rode it home. My windshield and pelican boxes are quick dis-connect so they came right off for the dirt. The DR is one of the few bikes that does that sort of ride easily,it ran 80mph all the way home and did all the dirt just fine out there. 1800 mile jaunt in about 5 days and 50mpg all the way.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:52 AM   #71383
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So im new to this forum, and new to adv riding, but am considering an adv bike for my next steed. I have just written off (not my fault) my owned from new 06 GSXR1000, and thought it might be time for a change. i loved the gixxer (had handlebars and a swag of other mods) but sadly, it was taken away from me in a accident.

Currently, 95% of my riding is commuting, but i was hoping to spend a little time exploring, now im over the need for speed. since im new to dirt (have ridden some dirtbikes in a padock, but ill still consider myself new), i was thinking of a smaller adv bike.

some options ive considered now are

DR650
KLR650
Husky TR650

I have a budget of about 11K AUD, and cant ride till mid jan at earliest next year (broken hand requiring pins and plates, and a broken wrist). as mentioned commuting in traffic, along highways (100kph) and normal streeta (60) is the norm, with the odd trip off road. Once i finish uni, and back in a high paying job, ill look at r1200gs etc, but for now, cheap, functional and good are requirements.

Here in oz, the klr and dr are about 2k cheaper than the husky, but the husky looks to be better std.

So since this is the dr thread - why should i buy a dr?
Go to the store, and sit on all 3 bikes. Beg, borrow, or steal test rides if you can! I was set on the KLR for a continent crossing trip, but I just couldn't get excited about it. I went to the store and sat on a KLR trying to convince myself that it was good, but its bulk just bothered me. A DR650 was sitting 2 bikes over, so I sat on it just to see what it felt like, and I knew immediately that I preferred it over the KLR. The mechanical simplicity, excellent air/oil cooling system, and many other reasons led me to buy the DR. If I had a choice between the 3, as you do, I would probably stick with the DR, but I'd definitely give the Terra a chance as it seems to be a pretty awesome bike, and the msrp here is only about $500 over the KLR I think.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:57 AM   #71384
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Yet, he's asking us
I was thinking the same thing here. Adv Grifter, maybe you should read the post as well..............
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:06 AM   #71385
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some options ive considered now are

DR650
KLR650
Husky TR650
The DR has simpler maintenance, screw valve adjust vs shims under buckets. The Husky no doubt has better suspension but is less proven and more complex, not sure what its' valve routine is but I imagine shims and overall higher maintenance. I have had a KLR, and a Husky 250, but neither for nearly as long as the DR. I road the KLR 2100 miles in 3 days across the US and I drove a borrowed DR from Melbourne to Perth, both worked. Have driven both in the dirt and the DR is just a whole lot more fun. The KLR is a good tractor but in comparison a slightly modified DR is a little hotrod
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