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Old 11-19-2012, 02:47 PM   #61
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And according to the few I've actually met, they ride just as fast, and take their lumps if they get caught. But they're pretty adept at using schmoes like me as bait I've seen, and then later talked to, a few that tailed me about a km back.

Last one was coming west into Marathon. When the cruiser coming towards me lit me up, I glanced down to see I was going about 135 in a 90. He gave me the universal slow down sign, turned off the lights and kept on going. The biker behind me caught me at the gas bar in Terrace Bay. He listened to my story, said he'd seen the lights come on, then laughed and told me he was an off-duty traffic cop. We rode the rest of the way to T.Bay together, at about 125 or so.

I think it's all in the attitude. I've been pulled over a few times, but haven't had a ticket since the early 80's, and that was driving a car during a blitz.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:15 PM   #62
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I am a retired police officer...NOT OPP... The police officer was jsut too big for the boots he was wearing. He has overstepped his authority. He has no authority to "rip" the radar detector from your bike especially if it is nicely mounted and installed neatly. Over zealous uneducated officers abound these days and this is a very good example of how a complaint to the OPP complaint bureau is justified especiall if the conversation was such that you volunteered to remove the device and turn it over. He has no authority to seize anything other than the radar detector or anything that is attached to it temporarily. Did he give you a receipt for the ceized device. If not he is in neglect of his duty. Complain loudly with photos of before and after. The complaint needs to be chronological and well thought out. Write it first and take it with you.
The PoPo do have authority without warrant to stop search and seize unlawful devices however, it is your property and you may apply to the court to get it back and send it out of the province or keep it at home. It is not unlawful to posess the device. it is unlawful "to drive a motor vehicle on a highway that is equipped with or carries or contains a speed measuring warning device".
Only upon conviction is the device forfeited to the crown. There is no Mens Rea (Intention to commit an offence) associated with this type of offence.
You might also bring associated documentation that it is lawful to use radar / laser detectors in BC.
Get your ducks in a row and be prepared to answer some dopey questions while in the stand.
Stand your ground and dig you heels in. Don't let the bastards railroad you into saying anything that you dont want to say but be respectful of the jp.

A reasonable explanation supported by documentation, from BC for instance. Your Ontario drivers licence will have a date of issue on it, The vehicle registration will also have a date of issue on it. If the dates are so close as to support your defence then there is latitude for the justice of the peace to aquit you of the offense given the circumstances.

Common sense is not common any more and the young coppers are for the most part very aggressive.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:53 AM   #63
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Got pulled over in a harass people on motorcycles checkpoint on 22X. My insurance papers had expired by 13 days, and I did not have the current ones. Police refused to allow me to call the insurance co to verify the policy was active, charged me with failure to produce.


"Your papers are not in order"........ .....Said the Nazzi.

Yes, You can now be arrested for not carrying the proper paperwork when you're out and about in the world.

Sometimes I'm surprised by the fact that we don't have to have an ID badge hanging around on our neck clearly visible at all times..

We'll probably all be chipped soon enough...


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