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Old 08-09-2012, 12:35 PM   #46
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Here's the catch... Many new (tech-advanced, higher end) bikes automatically keep computer records. The dealership will know how you broke it in if they look into it. While dealerships and manufactures vary some, don't expect any of them to bend over backwards to help you if you do happen to have engine problems.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:32 PM   #47
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Many new (tech-advanced, higher end) bikes automatically keep computer records.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:57 PM   #48
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Thanks everyone for your input. It's been an interesting topic to watch.

In the end, I decided to apply varied throttling and acceleration/deceleration cycles in all the gears, but did so - and will continue to do so - completely within the parameters of the Triumph's recommended break-in.
Tiger 800 Owner's Manual, p. 53:
During first 500 miles:
* Do not use full throttle.
* Avoid high engine speeds at all times
* Avoid riding at one constant engine speed[...]
* Avoid aggressie starts, stops [etc]
* Do not ride at speeds greater than 3/4 of maximum engine speed

During 500 to 1000 miles:
* Engine speed can gradually be increased to the rev limit for short periods.

Both during and after breaking-in has been completed:
* Do not over-rev the engine when cold.
* Do not lug the engine. [...]
* Do not ride with engine speed unnecessarily high [...]

So, really, the big difference is that MotoMan suggests an organized programmed run at slightly higher revs than the factory, and changing the oil sooner.

Will note that having done this on the FJR, the first oil change was clean... and had tiny sparkly bits in it. Seeing that, I went ahead and changed the final drive oil at the same time. That was FULL of sparkly bits. 67k miles later, the FJR doesn't use oil and I don't exactly ride it easy. (most recently, 250 miles of trackday style flogging.)
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:21 AM   #49
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I can't remember the last big bike I had engine issues with that I could trace to break in procedures.
Race bikes, get a couple of laps if they are lucky at reduced rpms but still significantly higher than road bikes.
But then during a season they will do 4 races a weekend of 7 miles or so once a month.
Then pulled apart - which is completely different.

The ring sealing thing I can buy into.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:19 PM   #50
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Here ya go motorman.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eypazq5xphw
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:32 PM   #51
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:02 AM   #52
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I don't think I'd post something that stupid even if I had nothing intelligent to add to the discussion.

Perhaps instead you should check out motorman's top 1000 music videos. He says they're really nifty
That's soooo AWESOME a post! The Intelligence is just dripping off the edges! I'm scrapping it off the screen and putting it in my coffee! Internet Inventor Intelligence in my coffee!! There may be hope yet!
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:46 AM   #53
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I'm Motoman's boy toy. He sure broke me in rough :ymca
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:32 PM   #54
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Now I'm not saying I've ever sucked one til it shot off in my mouth, but I let a few boys waller around in there for a few minutes.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:36 AM   #55
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I've done this (deliberately) with every one of my bikes -- DR-Z, SV1000, R6, Husaberg, S10 -- and I've never had any kind of issue with them. It works, period.

I sat and talked to my bike mechanic when I brought my S10 in for the first oil change (at ~35 miles) and he said he couldn't believe how much of the crap -- metal chips/assembly lube/etc. -- came out in the oil after just a few miles.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:36 PM   #56
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:46 PM   #57
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Pissed PIston knocking (?) after "Motoman break in"

Just drove a new 150cc single cylinder out of the shop- warmed it up first, drove it pretty slow in 1 and 2 gear around a few blocks, cooled down for 15 minutes or so and then took it outta town for 40km, varied gears between 2-4 a lot and gave it some 1/2, 3/4 and almost full throttle for a few seconds with down-shfting. Up to 80kmh max. in 4th gear, maybe 60kmh in 3rd. About half way home I noticed a knocking/clacking sound and thought it might be a bolt or something that didn't get tightened. When I got home, I gave it a close look/listen and it sounds pretty much like its coming from the engine. It happens at idle and every rpm. Seems to run well, but sounds not awesome. This is basically my first bike and I'm not a mechanic. Could this be from riding it too hard at the beginning? Everything I've read points to "no", but I'm still worried that I f-ed it up. It's got a 1 year warranty, but I can see them in the shop givin' me a hell of a time. Any advice, suggestions, what to check, would be greatly appreciated?
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:24 AM   #58
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Make sure it has proper oil level and return it to the shop. Do not tolerate any bullshit, unless you've left something out, this is warranty.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:16 AM   #59
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Make sure it has proper oil level and return it to the shop. Do not tolerate any bullshit, unless you've left something out, this is warranty.
Slipknot's right.

Kobermeyer, there's nothing wrong with what you did. You're looking at a manufacturer defect there. It's warranty service time.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:13 PM   #60
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back in the day, the 60's and 70's, before the machine tolerances were as good as they are today, my father drove race cars for some very important teams, one or two of which had "unofficial" sponsorship from Chevrolet. They used to go to the proving grounds in Michigan to break in the new batch of race engines by doing almost the very same thing the motorman recommends.

1. let the motor idle until the temperature is up to normal.

2. out onto the track, full throttle from idle to red line in first gear, then decelerate with no throttle until back down to idle, repeat this until the car has completed a full lap, into the pits, shut down!

3. change the oil and filter.

The engine is race ready!

I've been breaking in car, truck, motorcycle, and go kart motors since then using this technique and have never had a single motor problem.
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