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Old 11-22-2012, 11:16 AM   #406
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Here is the moose catalog link. The throttle tubes and adjustable cams are on the top left of page 66

http://www.mooseracing.com/
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:23 AM   #407
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That's about what it boils down to. In hindsight I should have gone with CV carbs, but these things were only $250 each and brand new. On the plus side, if I swap the BringMoreWrenches over to CV's I can use the TM's on a couple of XRR's.
NOOOOOOOOO

I hate CV carbs and would NEVER consider riding any real dirt with them again....I almost got killed 3 or 4 times on a KTM that had a CV carb on it, a 2000 SXC 400 Lc4 motor bike had one on it for smog reasons and the bog out on any hard hit in the dirt. Not even jumping it, just any hard G-out where the suspensing compresses hard or bottoms out the vacum slides slam shut causing the carbs to right when you need acceleration to drive through the G-out. Instead it bogs and causes the rearend to buck violently spitting you over the bars...all fixed with a $400.00 Sudco kit. Never happened again and ran WAY better.

You still would have a return spring on a CV carb anyway on each carb so I am not sure it would stop the issue you are fighting.....not sure though.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:28 AM   #408
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NOOOOOOOOO

I hate CV carbs and would NEVER consider riding any real dirt with them again....I almost got killed 3 or 4 times on a KTM that had a CV carb on it, a 2000 SXC 400 Lc4 motor bike had one on it for smog reasons and the bog out on any hard hit in the dirt. Not even jumping it, just any hard G-out where the suspensing compresses hard or bottoms out the vacum slides slam shut causing the carbs to right when you need acceleration to drive through the G-out. Instead it bogs and causes the rearend to buck violently spitting you over the bars...all fixed with a $400.00 Sudco kit. Never happened again and ran WAY better.

You still would have a return spring on a CV carb anyway on each carb so I am not sure it would stop the issue you are fighting.....not sure though.

I ain't jumping this thing, the earth would crack right down the middle if I did.

Return spring on a CV doesn't have to return the slide, just the throttle plate, that's why the spring is so small on the CV carb...like BMW used to do their bikes, CV Bings or whatever they used.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:03 PM   #409
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No I know you are not "planning" on jumping this thing, but sometimes you hit whoops hard or there is a washout you do not expect or other odd scenerios, that is WHY you added more suspension Right?

It does not have to be a jump, ANY harder hit can close those slides, not sure about the diaphram Bings, I am talking about the Mikuni CVs like a Harley has or most DRZs....I would not run those on a battle scooter.

I have an '86 R80G/S that has the Bings on it with the vacum diaphrams on it and those are NOT that easy to pull either. The throttle is alot tougher twist than my R1100RT FI is. My KTM 530 with the FCR flatslide carbs similar to yors was VERY light throttle pull, albeit only 1 carb.

I hope you find a fix to lighten it to a more comfortable pull.
Keep us posted
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:21 AM   #410
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No I know you are not "planning" on jumping this thing, but sometimes you hit whoops hard or there is a washout you do not expect or other odd scenerios, that is WHY you added more suspension Right?

Nope, it doesn't have any more travel or ground clearance than it did before...it's just lighter and the front suspension travels like a motorcycle now.

I had a KLR with the same carb that a Harley has, CV and I never slammed the slide closed on it during a g-out.
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:56 AM   #411
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I was listening to this song when I decided to do the build. It's called 'Road Zombie' by Social Distortion.


The full build in minutes, from start to finish:


Larryboy, I love Social D and Mike Ness. On almost all of my other regularly visited forums my sig line is "Your shakin my hand while your pissin on my leg" Mike Ness" That is one of my favorite lyrical quotes of all times. A bit synical but often true unfortunatly.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:47 PM   #412
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Howz the bike working out?
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:57 AM   #413
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Howz the bike working out?

Just fine, I don't daily ride it...I save it for trips. Gonna do a two-up trip in a couple of weeks.


Here are the last three trips on this bike:

With the dog: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=816743


Alone, two trips, one report: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=842291
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:10 PM   #414
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All loaded up for a long weekend two-up.




We're chatting about what a great bike I've created here and how we're gonna keep it for awhile.




I run the bike while I air up the mattresses, but the bike dies and won't idle anymore. Can't be fuel, ran fine all day. Can't be air, filter is clean. Must be spark, runs poorly...thinking plug wire or a fouled plug.




Fiddled around with it, checked this and that...screw it, it still runs, let's limp it home.




Left cylinder is cold...




Made it home, plug wires ohm as good. Pickup and ignition box are good, need to pull the coil and test it out...98% sure one side of the dual output coil croaked, totally my fault...it was a $14 part and I should have bought a better quality one. Note to self; carry a spare coil.


Next round of mods is coming up...3.20 rear gears in place of the 2.82's, more fuel capacity and stiffer springs front and back.
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:19 PM   #415
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Nice to see that it's still getting used now that you've got the 100mph sofa in the garage. . . .

I think I'll be up in that area on bear valley road tomorrow.
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:51 PM   #416
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Nice to see that it's still getting used now that you've got the 100mph sofa in the garage. . . .

I think I'll be up in that area on bear valley road tomorrow.

Yup, it's a great bike!! Oh yeah, just put a new starter on the thing too...got tired of hearing the screeching sound everytime I started the engine and it really made me think of walking all the time.

Have a good ride!!

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Old 05-27-2013, 08:21 AM   #417
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Late as always!

I love this bike, you definitely created a monster. It looks GREAT too, without the beak and all. The exposed driveshaft on that one bike looked sweet. After reading this I've no doubt you can do it.

I'm trying to find an 1150 myself, I like the fact the you can work on them yourself, less money going to the dealer, plus it's a good feeling knowing that it runs due to your own work.

I'm off to read a couple of your RR's now, stay safe.
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Old 05-28-2013, 02:37 AM   #418
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Ha, and I thought the zombie was running like an un-dead racehorse, hence the quiet thread....

Good to see it's nothing major, though.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:39 AM   #419
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in AWE. Great thread, great fabrication, great patience. I only can hope that between me and Curtis I end up with something as sweet.

PS- and thanks for the info earlier.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:35 AM   #420
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Ha, and I thought the zombie was running like an un-dead racehorse, hence the quiet thread....

Good to see it's nothing major, though.

It's been quiet because it's been done and sits awaiting the next trip.


Went through some super old emails looking for the coil that Poolside had suggested I use...found it, Dyna 3 ohm dual tower DC6-1. Of course I asked him if I could just use a stock Harley coil at $14 instead of the $85 Dyna coil, get what ya pay for I suppose.


Thanks Coach and slowpoke, can't wait to try out the new final drive with the lower gears.

Might rebuild the driveshaft while I have it apart, over 60,000 miles on the bike now.
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