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Old 11-19-2012, 12:43 PM   #1
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Headlight modulator: is amber/yellow tint legal?

Does anyone know of any legal reason I can't use an amber/yellow tint on a modulated headlight? I run a Kisan modulator on the high-beam of my 1200GS. To minimize the number of high beam "F-You" flashes I was getting, I added a chunk of grey/smoke window tinting foil to my headlight guard 3 years ago. I never got another high-beam flash, but I found people pulling over occasionally thinking I was a cop. I think the tinting foil had a hint of blue in it.

I then switched from the grey/smoke tint to amber. Now I have a higher incidence of people pulling over from both directions, thinking I'm an ambulance. The tint I bought is a bit toward the orange side of the amber spectrum. I've ordered another sheet that is much more yellow. Hopefully, that eliminates all but the intended attention.

I read the FMVSS rules on modulators and didn't see anything preventing the use of a yellow/amber tint.

Did I miss something? Is this legal?

PS - Let's not start another "modulators - love 'em/hate 'em" thread - just stick to the color question!
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:46 PM   #2
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You will have to check your state laws. Federal law requires every NEW vehicle to be sold with clear/white headlamps, but does not cover what you do with the vehicle once it's purchased.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:30 PM   #3
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I'm running an amber Rigid Industries D2 and haven't had any problems so far, nor has anyone pulled over thinking I'm something other than a moto. It's not my primary headlight, but it is on all of the time. I know this doesn't really answer your question, but hope it's relevant.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:35 PM   #4
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Here in Indiana, motorcycles are required to have one white headlight, and forward-facing blue or red lights are prohibited. There's no mention of more than one headlight, and no prohibitions against other colors. Modulators are not mentioned, so the relevant federal law applies (which Kisan owners can probably quote from memory...)

Anyway, I run one white headlight and one yellow headlight in my V-Strom (I do not use a modulator). It looks a bit strange, which I think is why I definitely see somewhat less stupidity from oncoming cagers when I'm on the Vee. Never been pulled over or asked about it.

As far as the modulator, you're going to get people reacting oddly for any color other than white (hell, they react oddly enough when it's a white light). Tow trucks, for example, use yellow or amber flashing lights.

Personally, I'd use the modulator only on a white light.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:56 PM   #5
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Michigan law

I did a bit more Googling on Michigan's headlight laws. There is a specific statement about all headlights having only white light. I rode for three years with a modulating grey-ish tint on my high-beam only and never got any LEO attention. I'll switch to the yellow tint when it arrives and see if that works better.
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:14 PM   #6
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I dumped the amber tint today and replaced it with simple frosted window tinting from Home Depot. I put it on both sides of my headlight protector to give two layers of dimming. No more colors. I'll take it out for a spin tomorrow and see if I get any headlight flashed in the opposite direction. I expect I will not get anymore pull-overs. It should also keep me out of the grey area of legality in Michigan.

At the same time, my yellow tint arrived in the mail. It is much different than my first amber attempt, which was almost fully orange in color. I expect it will collect dust in my garage for a while.
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:21 AM   #7
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I didn't care for the added dangers of using a modulator. After numerous close calls I dumped the modulator and simply added driving lights for added visibility. Much better. I no longer had people around me doing odd things and nearly killing me because they were confused by the modulator.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:14 PM   #8
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So far - so good

I went for a ride today to test out my heated gear (toasty!) and try out the frosted modulator. Good results: no pull-overs, no "F-you" flashes from the opposite direction.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:26 PM   #9
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I didn't care for the added dangers of using a modulator. After numerous close calls I dumped the modulator and simply added driving lights for added visibility. Much better. I no longer had people around me doing odd things and nearly killing me because they were confused by the modulator.

He couldnt help himself
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:29 AM   #10
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He couldnt help himself
There apparently are a number of folks who dislike modulators and believe they are distracting.

Adding a very tall pole with a rotating amber light on top would help garner additional attention.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:52 AM   #11
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The op asked politely if we would not turn his thread into an opinion poll on modulators.
You could t help yourself either. Lol


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Old 11-25-2012, 06:29 PM   #12
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I wonder if the OP use him modulator 90-100% of the time.

I have one but only use it when 'necessary'. I ride AND laneshare among MANY 'transportation appliance pilots' here in CA. I've seen less than a hand full of drivers pissed at me. absolutely zero that are confused into traveling into my path.
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