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Old 12-01-2012, 07:17 PM   #16
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Thanks for all the advice everyone! I will have to check out Butler and Delorme. I am taking a trip to the ozarks this spring and will be looking into those maps. And that website for trails out west is fantastic! Michigan and Wisconsin are fairly close to my area now so it is all excellent information, thank you. If anyone has anything else feel free to chime in, Can never have too much information.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:39 AM   #17
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How so?

Where can I find these maps to look at?
titles are here http://www.benchmarkmaps.com/
purchase from amazon.

butler links are below.
our ozark map has no dirt on it just so you know.
not enough room.
thnx bill
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:51 PM   #18
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+1 on the Delorme and USGS topos, but just know that a lot of the USGS topos are out of date and I believe Delorme uses them as their base, so occassionally a bridge, road, or a 4WD trail, etc. that you see on paper may be long gone now.

This is a bit out of date too but may be useful to you, http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/mapmakers.htm
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:19 AM   #19
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Maps round-up

I just posted on my blog, Backcountry Byways Journal (link is in my signature), a roundup of maps that I've used for many years to research backcountry roads.

In the atlas genre, Benchmark is the gold standard for Western states. Nat'l Geographic's Trails Illustrated, and AAA affiliate Automobile Club of Southern California produce outstanding maps for our purposes ... exhaustively researched and verified. Their map for the Southwest, called Indian Country Guide Map, is remarkable. Free to members, $4.95 to non-members.

The National Forest Store sells national forest maps, which are outstanding.

Visit my blog post for more info ...

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Old 12-08-2012, 04:53 AM   #20
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Need more than one map

I ride all over the continent and explore as many dirt roads to destinations as I can find. I've even bought tracks from byways above. I use AAA maps, Benchmark and DeLorme map books, Google Maps and my Garmin Citynavigator/Basecamp software. All af them serve a purpose when planning a trip, be it the CDR, GWT, Pony Express or just poking around the timberlands of Northern Maine.

DeLorme clearly has the most detail. So much detail it's hard to determine if the path is a trail or a road sometimes. Benchmark is easier to use because it is less cluttered, but they only cover the great west. Both are a bit of a chore to take with me on a motorcycle, so I generally only take 1, if any.

AAA maps are very good for both planning and taking along for reference. They have most dirt roads clearly marked, but sometimes the names are wrong. The high level scale is really helpful for roughing out the route. AAA maps are free to AAA members. It's like $50/yr I think. My wife has used their tow service, so not a bad trade to get my maps. Like Tony said, their Indian Country is their very best and it is invaluable for those of us who explore the 4 corners area.

Once I have roughed out the general route using the above paper maps, I drill down with Google Maps. It is very good at picking up most of the roads in Benchmark. I use this to verify if the road actually goes through. The satellite view can help in that way. If it looks like it does, I fire up my Basecamp software and use the tracks tool to create the tracks that I will follow. Citynavigator also has detail but you have to zoom into .2 mile to see the path. That can be a slow process because at .2 mile, you have no scale and can easily go down the wrong path.

Once my tracks are made, transfer them and the appropriate maps to my GPS. Then I verify the tracks are there.

If I have been fortunate enough to acquire proven track logs from somebody else, I still go through the same process with all my maps to make sure I am riding the route I want.

Fun stuff to get us through the winter.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:00 AM   #21
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To expand a bit on Pantah's comments about AAA maps, my experience is that those produced by the Southern California affiliate -- Automobile Club of Southern California -- exceed the quality of those produced or at least distributed by the other regional AAA affiliates in the West. I know how much effort they put into their extraordinary folded paper maps. Their regional maps for SoCal are amazing, and accurate.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:05 AM   #22
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:48 PM   #23
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