The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by oalvarez

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2012 BMW R1200 GS
2012 Ducati MTS1200St Ti
2012 Vespa 300 Super
2003 Aprilia Tuono Racing

You went haywire buying new bikes this year, didn't you!
Was it the CA Lottery funding it?

[marchyman]

Originally Posted by dougpaw57

I got the spokes on my 2009 because I remember all the problems in the mid-to-late 90's when everyone was bending/breaking BMW cast wheels on potholes. I just figured that even riding on the road, the spoked wheels just might be cheaper in the long run.

They changed the alloy wheels with the introduction of the hexhead. Some oilhead alloy wheels would bend if you looked at them wrong. I helped pound out some dents on bikes belonging to friends... then never felt whatever it was they hit/ran over. On the other hand I've abused the alloy wheels on my '05 hexhead and they are still fine.

That said, I'll probably go wire wheels next bike just because. I'll come up with some bogus reason as to why, later.

[oalvarez]

Originally Posted by Montauk

You went haywire buying new bikes this year, didn't you!
Was it the CA Lottery funding it?

this year? hahahahahahahaha

[Florida Lime]

Originally Posted by oalvarez

this year? hahahahahahahaha

Translation : Every year !

[rattis]

A couple of mpgs more or less is for me of no consequence, that's not the big moneydrain.
It's the trips and the hotels and the sundowners and....the FARKELS.
Life is short so I'll live with it even it the mileage is poor the pure joy of riding makes up for it.

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by rattis

A couple of mpgs more or less is for me of no consequence, that's not the big moneydrain

It's not the money I worry, the higher the mileage, the further you go for 5.3 gal (20L). At the current 42mpg of my bike (non-GS) that has only 4.5 gallon tank, I get tired of stopping for gas and worrying about the next fillip in the desert riding. Too many fill ups on a 500 mile day trip.

[dmac57]

Originally Posted by Montauk

Too many fill ups on a 500 mile day trip.

Agreed. I'm chagrin'd to not have any long days to speak of on the '12 12GS, so I don't know how much the range is reduced compared to the eleven-fiddy. But they both suck hind tit compared to the R90, which when in proper tune would be on the high side of 250 miles before the reserve, and 300 on an optimum tank.

[TuefelHunden]

Originally Posted by dmac57

Agreed. I'm chagrin'd to not have any long days to speak of on the '12 12GS, so I don't know how much the range is reduced compared to the eleven-fiddy. But they both suck hind tit compared to the R90, which when in proper tune would be on the high side of 250 miles before the reserve, and 300 on an optimum tank.

I have found that when riding twisty roads of the Appalachians, I average about 45 mph. (that's not snail speed either) I get about 220 miles to the running on fumes point, 200 if I'm really cranking the wick. That works out to be about four plus hours in the saddle. Just between you me and the outhouse, that's too frickin' long without a break, especially when hitting the turns hard. Not everyone is traversing the Gobi, Sahara, Mohave, or Oklahoma. A gas stop every two or three hours ain't all that bad.

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by TuefelHunden

A gas stop every two or three hours ain't all that bad.

Agree there. My max range is around 170 miles, and after riding for two hours (120 miles), its time for break. I end up filling 'cause ill never make it to the next break if I don't fill up. When done filling and recoding mileage, my riding buddies are already finished their break. It's not fun when you have to rush every thing and every time.

It would be nice to stop and not worry about gas fill ups.

[khale]

Originally Posted by TuefelHunden

I have found that when riding twisty roads of the Appalachians, I average about 45 mph. (that's not snail speed either) I get about 220 miles to the running on fumes point, 200 if I'm really cranking the wick. That works out to be about four plus hours in the saddle. Just between you me and the outhouse, that's too frickin' long without a break, especially when hitting the turns hard. Not everyone is traversing the Gobi, Sahara, Mohave, or Oklahoma. A gas stop every two or three hours ain't all that bad.

You do know the new liquid cooled GS comes with a built in catheter bag, right?

[PirateJohn]

Originally Posted by khale

You do know the new liquid cooled GS comes with a built in catheter bag, right?

The optional ammonia recycling kit so the rider can piss right back into the fuel tank.

[EJ_92606]

Originally Posted by Montauk

Agree there. My max range is around 170 miles, and after riding for two hours (120 miles), its time for break. I end up filling 'cause ill never make it to the next break if I don't fill up. When done filling and recoding mileage, my riding buddies are already finished their break. It's not fun when you have to rush every thing and every time.

It would be nice to stop and not worry about gas fill ups.

I agree about time for breaks but in the 12,000 miles of my GS ownership I've come very close to running out of gas several times......gas stations are few and far between on back roads in the western U.S. But having said that, I still prefer my bike over a GSA's massive tank...just wish it got slightly better mileage or had a slightly bigger tank.

[taran1900]

Originally Posted by Montauk

Agree there. My max range is around 170 miles, and after riding for two hours (120 miles), its time for break. I end up filling 'cause ill never make it to the next break if I don't fill up. When done filling and recoding mileage, my riding buddies are already finished their break. It's not fun when you have to rush every thing and every time.

It would be nice to stop and not worry about gas fill ups.

Bigger tank=freedom to take that longer, lonlier road. When I went through Wyoming the 8 gallon tank and great mileage on my RT allowed me lot of that. At altitude the RT does over 55mpg so I didn't start to get worried about running on fumes until the 380 mile mark. I didn't plan on that, it's just not all the gas stations that show up on the GPS out west are still in business. Big tanks rock.

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by taran1900

Bigger tank=freedom to take that longer, lonlier road. ... Big tanks rock.

Well it's water under the bridge so lets hope we get good mileage. I don't expect on a GS tank to be bigger say 25L, (6.6 Gallon) up by 5L in the next 4 - 5 years.

[edeslaur]

Originally Posted by TuefelHunden

I have found that when riding twisty roads of the Appalachians, I average about 45 mph. (that's not snail speed either) I get about 220 miles to the running on fumes point, 200 if I'm really cranking the wick. That works out to be about four plus hours in the saddle. Just between you me and the outhouse, that's too frickin' long without a break, especially when hitting the turns hard. Not everyone is traversing the Gobi, Sahara, Mohave, or Oklahoma. A gas stop every two or three hours ain't all that bad.

There's no rule you have to wait until it's empty to stop. I'll take all the range I can get.