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Old 12-04-2012, 04:04 PM   #1846
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2. smaller v-twin adventure bike for solo riding with minimum electronics and blings is coming in next 2-3 years
What's the price?


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Old 12-04-2012, 07:50 PM   #1847
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What's the price?


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My insider sources say it will be more expensive than the 1190s, a bit more than the R.

KTM thinks that if somebody wants a high-spec niche model like this, then they will see the value and will be prepared to pay for it.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:12 PM   #1848
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What's the price?


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Old 12-04-2012, 11:13 PM   #1849
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My insider sources say it will be more expensive than the 1190s, a bit more than the R.

KTM thinks that if somebody wants a high-spec niche model like this, then they will see the value and will be prepared to pay for it.
but I hope it will be cheaper then the Dakar version of 450
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:53 AM   #1850
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It is a bike that is there to be used and abused; if you are ruled by your head then get the standard bike - you won't be disappointed and your wife, partner or special friend will say that looks like a nice sensible bike.

But if you are ruled by your heart then the 'R' version is for you and a whole new world of adventure awaits.....................
My heart goes with the R too, I like 21" front tires, I am tall enough that I can handle one. However, my concern is -maybe a stupid one- relates to the highway ride part. The front tire of the standart is 120, whereas the R has a tall 90 size tire. The 1190 is a good 150 hp bike, which I believe will be faster and superior than all others on the market.
I am sure that there are calculations for these, but taking into consideration the moments of sudden braking; would a 90 size tire give enough area of friction for a safe stopping power. This can't be known before the bike is ridden but this is where I got stuck before deciding which way to go.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:58 AM   #1851
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Another inch on fork and shock?

Would the 1190R become instable at high speed (> 110 mph) if equipped with 1" taller fork and shock? Just not happy with less suspension travel than I got on my beloved SE.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:24 PM   #1852
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probably a repost, but why not?

Has anybody noticed this on the KTM website yet?



Offroad/Bad Fuel Dongle
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Essential Powerpart for frequent off-road use or when traveling in countries with unstable fuel quality. The offroad / Bad Fuel dongle allows the use of "Bad Fuel" mappings so that the engine runs perfectly, even with bad quality fuel. In addition, the ABS and traction control can be turned off permanently (ie, they remain off even after turning off the ignition and restarting). Hardware is water and shock resistant in a plastic sleeve and is connected to the main harness, ready for use.


It looks like they are allowing people to turn off the ABS and traction control permanently if they want too on thier 1190's. So they are thinking people are still going to want to go offroad with the bike.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:55 PM   #1853
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this will sell for.......

MSRP in the USA will be between $16,000.00 and $17,500.00.

The international web site states that the1190r is just $500.00 more than the 990r.

Why does my 950 look like such a pig next to the 1190?
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:32 PM   #1854
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Anyone catch whether the 1190 wheel set will be a straight swap out for the R wheel set ? Still thinking about adding one to the stable but I know how I will ride the beast on the street and, for me, I think I could use the 120/170 width more than 21/18 height part of the equation.

And, I always told Big Ugly that she could retire from primary duty at 50 (K, that is) and she hit that milestone last weekend.

Can't stop considering the possibilities of that 1190 motor on street twisties.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:15 PM   #1855
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Would the 1190R become instable at high speed (> 110 mph) if equipped with 1" taller fork and shock? Just not happy with less suspension travel than I got on my beloved SE.
Assuming you can lengthen both sides I don't see why stability would be effected at all.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:53 AM   #1856
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I'd ride the damn thing first and see how well it works like it is. Save the upgrade money to spend on tires and fuel.

If the suspension is well setup for the rider and riding style you may not be able to discern the difference in the missing 2.5 cm.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:56 AM   #1857
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I'd ride the damn thing first and see how well it works like it is. Save the upgrade money to spend on tires and fuel.

If the suspension is well setup for the rider and riding style you may not be able to discern the difference in the missing 2.5 cm.
I agree, was just answering the question.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:09 AM   #1858
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I agree, was just answering the question.
I was just too lazy to go find the original post to quote, and hoped that quoting your reply would include it.

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Old 12-06-2012, 08:06 AM   #1859
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Assuming you can lengthen both sides I don't see why stability would be effected at all.
The reason for shorter suspension on the 1190R, might also have with the abs to do. The mapping window of "antiturningover" and good breaking performance, is nearly impossible to find with long(er) suspensions travel/high center of gravity. This is the reason for KTM dont allows standard 990 suspension to be lenghted with abs bikes.
For the same reason, KTM dont allows swapping wheels between the two 1190 models.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:08 AM   #1860
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The reason for shorter suspension on the 1190R, might also have with the abs to do. The mapping window of "antiturningover" and good breaking performance, is nearly impossible to find with long(er) suspensions travel/high center of gravity. This is the reason for KTM dont allows standard 990 suspension to be lenghted with abs bikes.
For the same reason, KTM dont allows swapping wheels between the two 1190 models.
Ah yeah I could see it perhaps fucking with the computers.

I guess that's one of the reasons I like my 950...

That being said personally I don't think 1" of travel will make a huge difference either way.
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