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Old 12-04-2012, 11:47 AM   #6451
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I'm glad you guys got the lemons. Both mine have been great.

mine was good for the first 10,000 miles of racing and woods riding abuse. Then it popped the water pump seal and headgasket. I am not complaining.
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:16 PM   #6452
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Well, we ride them off road more
You are probably right. My tires never leave the pavement. I should have got a SM
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:46 AM   #6453
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You are probably right. My tires never leave the pavement. I should have got a SM
Sweet pic Noah,
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:51 PM   #6454
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More on sidestand switch disable....

Ho-hum it must be winter in USA/north..threads are becoming mundane..!!.... thought id follow some others in disabling the sidestand switch...( in a slow quest to reduce ? the ocasional flame-out when racing to a stop )
Another inmate suggested a 1K to 3K resistor to repace the hall switch putting this resisror between the pink and black wires [ there are 3 wires going to the switch pink, black and blue ].
I did a few tests to ceate some understanding and what we have is a blue wire that supplies a regulated 5 Volts from the ECU to power the switch [ the switch is a Hall device [ linear response to a magnet ] coupled internally to a Schimdt trigger level detector that provide a snap action . [ hope im not boring anyone ]. Anyway, at ignition switch on, 5V is sent to blue and without the Hall connected the pink wire also reads 5 Volts. With the Hall switch in place and activated [ stand up ] the pink wire is locked down to 2.50Volts. Black is the earth wire or at earth potential [ 0 ].. I did a few tests to establish the ( voltage ) effect of adding the first mentioned resistor ''cheat '' to ''pull down '' the pink wire to about 2.5 Volts .

3.3K gives 3.02 volts
2.7K gives 2.78 Volts
2.2K gives 2.52 Volts [ test resistors between black and pink ]
1.8K gives 2.27 volts
1.5K gives 2.06 Volts
1.0K gives 1.6 Volts

After all this bull we must conclude that probably the best resistor to use is 2.2k { 2200 ohms } ...a standard value and i used a 1 watt metal oxide type [ most stable ] [ fortunately i carry many of every resistor 1 ohm ...1 Meg ohm at home so its an easy test !! ]
So after all that #&*@# , simply cut wires to stand above connector near shock, solder in 2.2 K ohms between Pink and Black, heat shrink it, then isolate and heat shrink off the blue so it cant short....and Bobs your uncle ....
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:38 PM   #6455
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Ho-hum it must be winter in USA/north..threads are becoming mundane..!!.... thought id follow some others in disabling the sidestand switch...( in a slow quest to reduce ? the ocasional flame-out when racing to a stop )
Another inmate suggested a 1K to 3K resistor to repace the hall switch putting this resisror between the pink and black wires [ there are 3 wires going to the switch pink, black and blue ].
I did a few tests to ceate some understanding and what we have is a blue wire that supplies a regulated 5 Volts from the ECU to power the switch [ the switch is a Hall device [ linear response to a magnet ] coupled internally to a Schimdt trigger level detector that provide a snap action . [ hope im not boring anyone ]. Anyway, at ignition switch on, 5V is sent to blue and without the Hall connected the pink wire also reads 5 Volts. With the Hall switch in place and activated [ stand up ] the pink wire is locked down to 2.50Volts. Black is the earth wire or at earth potential [ 0 ].. I did a few tests to establish the ( voltage ) effect of adding the first mentioned resistor ''cheat '' to ''pull down '' the pink wire to about 2.5 Volts .

3.3K gives 3.02 volts
2.7K gives 2.78 Volts
2.2K gives 2.52 Volts [ test resistors between black and pink ]
1.8K gives 2.27 volts
1.5K gives 2.06 Volts
1.0K gives 1.6 Volts

After all this bull we must conclude that probably the best resistor to use is 2.2k { 2200 ohms } ...a standard value and i used a 1 watt metal oxide type [ most stable ] [ fortunately i carry many of every resistor 1 ohm ...1 Meg ohm at home so its an easy test !! ]
So after all that #&*@# , simply cut wires to stand above connector near shock, solder in 2.2 K ohms between Pink and Black, heat shrink it, then isolate and heat shrink off the blue so it cant short....and Bobs your uncle ....
great report but you lost me after "it must be winter in the USA/North"
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:41 PM   #6456
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Ho-hum it must be winter in USA/north..threads are becoming mundane..!!.... thought id follow some others in disabling the sidestand switch...( in a slow quest to reduce ? the ocasional flame-out when racing to a stop )
Another inmate suggested a 1K to 3K resistor to repace the hall switch putting this resisror between the pink and black wires [ there are 3 wires going to the switch pink, black and blue ].
I did a few tests to ceate some understanding and what we have is a blue wire that supplies a regulated 5 Volts from the ECU to power the switch [ the switch is a Hall device [ linear response to a magnet ] coupled internally to a Schimdt trigger level detector that provide a snap action . [ hope im not boring anyone ]. Anyway, at ignition switch on, 5V is sent to blue and without the Hall connected the pink wire also reads 5 Volts. With the Hall switch in place and activated [ stand up ] the pink wire is locked down to 2.50Volts. Black is the earth wire or at earth potential [ 0 ].. I did a few tests to establish the ( voltage ) effect of adding the first mentioned resistor ''cheat '' to ''pull down '' the pink wire to about 2.5 Volts .

3.3K gives 3.02 volts
2.7K gives 2.78 Volts
2.2K gives 2.52 Volts [ test resistors between black and pink ]
1.8K gives 2.27 volts
1.5K gives 2.06 Volts
1.0K gives 1.6 Volts

After all this bull we must conclude that probably the best resistor to use is 2.2k { 2200 ohms } ...a standard value and i used a 1 watt metal oxide type [ most stable ] [ fortunately i carry many of every resistor 1 ohm ...1 Meg ohm at home so its an easy test !! ]
So after all that #&*@# , simply cut wires to stand above connector near shock, solder in 2.2 K ohms between Pink and Black, heat shrink it, then isolate and heat shrink off the blue so it cant short....and Bobs your uncle ....

Call me lazy but I just bought a pre-made side stand switch and plugged it in.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:04 AM   #6457
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Call me lazy but I just bought a pre-made side stand switch and plugged it in.
Yeah....I was gonna say that.


But some of these guys know how to make a simple job so effin complicated

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Old 12-07-2012, 02:28 AM   #6458
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We are currently working with Torque Racing on a customers very special machine.
It is a brand-new EML chassis that has been specifically designed to accept the KTM 690 Enduro engine,and we are currently working on manufacturing a new airbox,and silencer and radiator mountings to finish it off.
It had Reiger shocks all round,and the workmanship on the chassis is fantastic.
It will become a road-legal enduro machine,and I would love to have a go in it!!!


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Old 12-07-2012, 04:29 AM   #6459
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its all happening at your place!!!!

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Old 12-07-2012, 06:31 AM   #6460
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its all happening at your place!!!!

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fits the eariler bikes too?
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:33 AM   #6461
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Yeah....I was gonna say that.


But some of these guys know how to make a simple job so effin complicated

Ged the Luddite


I have learned over time that if someone has already taken the time to make a viable solution then it is often worth the cost of buying it vs the cost and time of creating your own solution. If there is no existing solution or the existing solution can be improved upon then its worth the effort.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:34 AM   #6462
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After all this bull we must conclude that probably the best resistor to use is 2.2k { 2200 ohms } ...a standard value and i used a 1 watt metal oxide type [ most stable ] [ fortunately i carry many of every resistor 1 ohm ...1 Meg ohm at home so its an easy test !! ]
So after all that #&*@# , simply cut wires to stand above connector near shock, solder in 2.2 K ohms between Pink and Black, heat shrink it, then isolate and heat shrink off the blue so it cant short....and Bobs your uncle ....
Most of us have used 2.2K ohm 1/4 watt resistor when disabling most any sensor/control. Seems to work well.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:22 AM   #6463
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Gave up on this POS. Bought an Africa Twin, and as soon as I get back to Canada in July, mine's for sale.

Excellent attempt KTM, but you shit the bed on waaaaaay too many issues to attempt to fix. Still love my 450 EXC.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:26 AM   #6464
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Gave up on this POS. Bought an Africa Twin, and as soon as I get back to Canada in July, mine's for sale.

Excellent attempt KTM, but you shit the bed on waaaaaay too many issues to attempt to fix. Still love my 450 EXC.
After owning a 950 the list of 'issues' for the 690, as well as the time it takes to fix them is ridiculously lower

To each's own! Good luck.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:27 AM   #6465
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Progress on the wiki!!

http://convulsingmuffin.com/690wiki/index.php/Main_Page
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