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Old 12-07-2012, 11:16 AM   #6316
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That pass was deemed an illegal tax by the Fed Sup court last year. They can still ticket, but have no leagl right to collect or penalize for not paying. It's now been reduced to a harassment tactic.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:46 PM   #6317
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Eek fart tax

Thanks Rob. I was reading about the apparent pending suspension of fees but I couldn't find acknowledgement by the USFS. Articles kept eluding to USFS having the right to charge for activities once in the park but that parking vehicles was not one of them. Should we expect new fees as a result of the adv pass going away? I wonder.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:56 PM   #6318
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:08 AM   #6319
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i'm willing to pay to play.
We already pay. They are called taxes.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:48 AM   #6320
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We already pay. They are called taxes.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:29 PM   #6321
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:34 PM   #6322
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We already pay. They are called taxes.
your neighbor pays the same taxes yet doesn't use the forest as much as you, you should pay more. you use it. give back.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:24 PM   #6323
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your neighbor pays the same taxes yet doesn't use the forest as much as you, you should pay more. you use it. give back.
A forest doesn't cost money. It's a freaking mountain full of trees.
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:14 PM   #6324
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your neighbor pays the same taxes yet doesn't use the forest as much as you, you should pay more. you use it. give back.
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A forest doesn't cost money. It's a freaking mountain full of trees.
It costs more than you realize - mostly for preventing or dealing with the kind of shit everyone says they don't do or wouldn't tolerate. Nobody is saying the $ is managed wisely, but until you can personally guarantee there will be no dumping, fires, or environmental disasters, it'll cost $ to maintain. Even with volunteers they can't keep up with demand.

You're right, we shouldn't have to double pay - but douchebags shouldn't ruin stuff for everyone either. Get rid of them and you'll have your free forest.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:17 PM   #6325
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i'll have to ask Klammer how much each hour we volunteer costs. yet, i still buy an Adventure Pass for a whopping $30 for a whole year.

think of eating out, drinking fancy coffee, buying cases of beer, etc etc. that's nothing in comparison and i'm more than happy to pay to play.

snowboarding would cost $60 - $100 a day. yes, it's a private ski area, but i look at it as the same.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:50 PM   #6326
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i'll have to ask Klammer how much each hour we volunteer costs. yet, i still buy an Adventure Pass for a whopping $30 for a whole year.

think of eating out, drinking fancy coffee, buying cases of beer, etc etc. that's nothing in comparison and i'm more than happy to pay to play.

snowboarding would cost $60 - $100 a day. yes, it's a private ski area, but i look at it as the same.
Yep, those white men sports are expensive. You ever see how much to water ski!
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:27 AM   #6327
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i'll have to ask Klammer how much each hour we volunteer costs. yet, i still buy an Adventure Pass for a whopping $30 for a whole year.

think of eating out, drinking fancy coffee, buying cases of beer, etc etc. that's nothing in comparison and i'm more than happy to pay to play.

snowboarding would cost $60 - $100 a day. yes, it's a private ski area, but i look at it as the same.
For each volunteer hour, the feds give $18.00 to the nfs to invest back into Rowher Flats. Long live the Rowher Flats Trail Krew!
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:36 AM   #6328
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Yep, those white men sports are expensive. You ever see how much to water ski!
Being an EX boat owner, i don't even want try to count the cost of water skiing I'll stick with the dirt bikes

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Old 12-09-2012, 11:57 AM   #6329
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Being an EX boat owner, i don't even want try to count the cost of water skiing I'll stick with the dirt bikes

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Old 12-09-2012, 12:02 PM   #6330
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We already pay to the tune of over $50.00 per bike for the Green Stickers, which in my family adds up to a lot of $$$$.



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