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Old 12-08-2012, 06:45 PM   #571
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There might be some truth to that. I remember reading something about him running an unusually stiff swingarm in AMA and SBK because that's what he liked. Laguna is probably the most punishing track on suspension throughout the year but its hard to imagine there wasn't some sort of defect.
yep, it's not like there in the business of making the shock mount needlessly strong and therefore heavy. I'm sure some FEA was conducted and determined the minimum amount of material to handle the loads they planned on seeing.


And it's not unheard of for pro's to find weak points. My understand is Taddy bends shock mounting bolts on the KTM on a regular basis.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:30 AM   #572
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Hey guys did you hear Rossi is going back to Yamaha? He's SO old, there's no way he can win a race ever again forever.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:55 AM   #573
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Hey guys did you hear Rossi is going back to Yamaha? He's SO old, there's no way he can win a race ever again forever.

Sounds like you need to bet me a carton of beer on that one. Make mine Coopers Pale Ale, delivered, to Mirboo North, OZ, in November next year.......... Come on over, I'm prepared to share......
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:07 AM   #574
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:15 AM   #575
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Hmmmm. Dodgy 'putr stufff..
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:16 AM   #576
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Spies wanted the bike set up really hard, apparently harder than the Yamaha wanted to be set - broken shock mount as a result. So you can interpret that as the bike not being adapted to him, or vice versa.
At Valencia, Tsuji (Yamaha tech boss) said it was a bolt that stripped. QA issue. At Indy, his bike dropped a valve from overheating, and after that, they altered the fueling to inject more fuel at certain important points to help cool the valves.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:32 AM   #577
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At Valencia, Tsuji (Yamaha tech boss) said it was a bolt that stripped. QA issue. At Indy, his bike dropped a valve from overheating, and after that, they altered the fueling to inject more fuel at certain important points to help cool the valves.
And next year the tanks shrink another liter.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:56 AM   #578
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And next year the tanks shrink another liter.
Turkeys voting for Christmas. Though to be honest, there's only a couple of tracks (Motegi, Misano, Brno) where fuel is an issue.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:12 AM   #579
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so because VR had a broken leg it doesnt count?Lorenzo has beaten rossi fair and square on the same bike 18 times.Never?
out of curiosity, how many times did Rossi beat Lorenzo on the same bike?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:56 PM   #580
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out of curiosity, how many times did Rossi beat Lorenzo on the same bike?
Just counted 30 times. Without counting injuries, 29.

Lorenzo beat Rossi 22 times. Without injuries 18 times. Consider that 9 (half) of the times Lorenzo beat Rossi were AFTER his injury.

Pre Rossi injury stats would then be Rossi 27 vs. Lorenzo 9.

Thanks wikipedia.

I'd say that injury really did a number on Rossi, it'll be interesting to see if he's on form like he was before the injury for 2013.

*after counting twice, I still haven't been able to account for the 53'rd race between those three seasons. I won't bother again, but you get the picture.

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Old 12-09-2012, 03:57 PM   #581
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Just counted 30 times. Without counting injuries, 29.

Lorenzo beat Rossi 22 times. Without injuries 18 times. Consider that 9 (half) of the times Lorenzo beat Rossi were AFTER his injury.

Pre Rossi injury stats would then be Rossi 27 vs. Lorenzo 9.

Thanks wikipedia.

I'd say that injury really did a number on Rossi, it'll be interesting to see if he's on form like he was before the injury for 2013.

*after counting twice, I still haven't been able to account for the 53'rd race between those three seasons. I won't bother again, but you get the picture.
Of course Rossi had a whole season on the Bridgestone tires before Lorenzo did, the Bridgestone had such an advantage that Pedrosa switched tires mid season.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:15 PM   #582
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Of course Rossi had a whole season on the Bridgestone tires before Lorenzo did, the Bridgestone had such an advantage that Pedrosa switched tires mid season.
But was Rossi crashing left and right and losing to his teammate that first year on the bridgstones?
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:05 PM   #583
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Rossi vs JL

Many an opinion to be considered here and doubtless time will have all the answers re Rossi in 2013.
As much as I would like to see Rossi take another title I believe it's going to be a hard ask for him next year.
All things considered these riders get up and walk away from most encounters with 'Terra Firma' but to get back into it with fervor after a broken leg, 'issues' with the Ducati (perceived or real) and impending age (we all get slower with age and these guys will be no different) would create doubt in anyones mind re their ability to deliver in the premier class.
Rossi has shown he can deliver when all the factors line up so here's hoping he still has some of the magic that disappeared on the Ducati.
These riders are for the greater part made of stuff the rest of us mere mortals were not endoured with so here's hoping for some podium finishes for Rossi.
If for no other reason he can be/is entertaining and since his absense from the podium most post race rider debriefs have been boring IMHO!
Pedrosa's new found fervor in the closing stages of this year made for some sadly lacking excitement so hopefully Rossi and the new suspects can add some variety to the podium.
We (and the sport) will all benefit from the outcome regardless.

My 2C worth

2013 - must check on dates!

Merry Xmas to all.
Have a safe one and looking forward to input from the learned lurkers and posters during the 2013 season.

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Old 12-09-2012, 06:30 PM   #584
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Turkeys voting for Christmas.
I had to look that one up.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:14 AM   #585
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I had to look that one up.
I guess the US equivalent would be turkeys voting for Thanksgiving. Surprised it isn't used in the US, seems like a pretty self-explanatory phrase...
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