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Old 12-09-2012, 07:34 AM   #1186
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when I leave my house depending on which direction I go I can be at 8 large grocery stores within 10 minutes. 3 of them within 2 miles. I can be at an Ikea in an hour. This guy's got fruit and a table cloth, bread, and god knows what else on hand. I don't. when I'm hungry I go buy something and a lot of it is already prepared. sometimes I have bread around and sometimes I'm too stupid and lazy to pay attention and half of it gets tossed when it gets moldy. I'm thinking my reality and his reality are worlds apart and even with all my american conveniences I could gain a lot more from his than he could from mine.


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Old 12-09-2012, 07:54 AM   #1187
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This guy's got fruit
A side topic - it is believed apples originated in Kazakstan, down near the former capital of Alamty.

Walter I am amazed to see fresh oranges on his table! I assume he is not short a quid.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:19 PM   #1188
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Hi Prutser and gang.

Yeah I know if you were interested in doing a build thread on the ST then you would have done it. But working on the assumption that until you say otherwise you will respond favourably to more ST focussed questions.

When looking at the pics I cannot see any frame strengthening as per HPN. Did you do any?
What length did you extend the swingarm by and what was the rear shock length?
What jet sizes were you running on the bing carbs and finally what was your fuel range?

That old beemer ST sure will convert many sceptics and boy it sure looks cool.

Ride on

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Old 12-09-2012, 03:05 PM   #1189
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Nothing mentioned seems likely given the small dead zone but obviously something did. I'd think lighting with enough force to drop 5 cows in that small of an area would leave some kind of mark on the ground? I wonder if they butchered and salvaged what meat they could. a fascinating footnote to a fascinating ride.
If there is a mark from a lightning strike, it could be under one of the dead cows. I have heard of multiple kills similar to this from lightning and it takes a pretty serious investigation to find the signs sometimes. The calf that's a little ways away could easily have been moved by the wolves.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:27 PM   #1190
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Hi Prutser and gang.

Yeah I know if you were interested in doing a build thread on the ST then you would have done it. But working on the assumption that until you say otherwise you will respond favourably to more ST focussed questions.

When looking at the pics I cannot see any frame strengthening as per HPN. Did you do any? No exept that the fuel tank does help to support the subframe
What length did you extend the swingarm by and what was the rear shock length? 5cm longer swing arm, shock length 410mm
What jet sizes were you running on the bing carbs and finally what was your fuel range? fuel range was about 375 km without the extra fuel bladder I had

That old beemer ST sure will convert many sceptics and boy it sure looks cool.

Ride on

Stashek.
Thanks Stashek for the kind words about the old machine.

It sure looks cool submerged being pushed by 2 or pulled by 3 to get it out of trouble
Don't know if that will convert many skeptics, but I still like the thing.

Its real nice to hear people enjoying the stone age technique doing ok amongst the newer bikes.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:30 PM   #1191
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If there is a mark from a lightning strike, it could be under one of the dead cows. I have heard of multiple kills similar to this from lightning and it takes a pretty serious investigation to find the signs sometimes. The calf that's a little ways away could easily have been moved by the wolves.
As a, now part time, sheep and cattle farmer I think that lightning is by far the most likely explanation. I've seen cattle killed by lighting and they are in a little group just like that. I guess out on the steppes there is nothing much else sticking up very high either to attract lightning.

I also remember being told that a really bad place to be during a lighting storm is riding a horse. Probably not a good idea to be standing next to a group of cattle either.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:27 PM   #1192
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agreed on theory that its was a lightning strike followed by animals feeding on carcas later. The group were to tight together for an attack, also no tracks of them milling around. I do not know wolves but see no bike marks all over the carcas, like the heels, throat etc.

Wonderfull thread to track. The remoteness and beaty of the area is stunning. Some of the birds come all the way down to South Africa in summer, for excample, Red Footed Falcon.

www.avibird.com/euhtl/Red-footed_falcon.html
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:32 PM   #1193
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Walter, if you are still at the Broadbeach Hotel, I would happily buy you a beer (or three) for bringing us along on yet another one of your amazing, and well documented, off road adventures!
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:12 PM   #1194
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...kill by lighting....

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As a, now part time, sheep and cattle farmer I think that lightning is by far the most likely explanation. I've seen cattle killed by lighting and they are in a little group just like that. I guess out on the steppes there is nothing much else sticking up very high either to attract lightning.

I also remember being told that a really bad place to be during a lighting storm is riding a horse. Probably not a good idea to be standing next to a group of cattle either.
Cattle are very susceptible to kill by lighting. read all about it: http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/vie...hp?f=7&t=70519
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:48 PM   #1195
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Day 42 continued

Day 42 turned into a huge day. From the nuclear test site to Kurchatov where the scientists were based, is about 70 km (45 miles).



Rod scored another flat:



Kurchatov is not the town it once was. Its pretty sleepy and dusty now. We just fueled up on the edge of town, grabbed some lunch and headed on the asphalt to the capital of the region Semipalatinsk (Semey) a further 130 km (80 miles away).





It was baking hot and sunny in the afternoon when we left Semipalatinsk, but as we headed towards the Russian border, a cold front swept in and we were all zipping up the jackets. The terrain had changed too ... it was green now.





The gang was hungry and we pulled into the border town of Shemonaikha for some food and to get rid of our Kazakh cash. The Russian border was just 17 km (11 miles) away. We could have gone there first, but border crossings always take a few hours and with everyone hungry we were either going to stop for the day in Shemonaikha or at least get something to eat. In the end we found no hotel, so we cleaned out a cafe of everything they had, then headed for the border, now in the dark.

There was a border queue and we got chatting with locals crossing:

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We crossed and made out way to the nearest Russian town, Zmeinogorsk, where I knew there would be hotels. Unfortunately when we got there, both hotels were full. It was raining now. Almost midnight. We rode into some woods on the edge of town and pitched our tents in the rain and in the dark. It was the end of a very long day.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:55 PM   #1196
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I grew up on a cattle station on the western Darling Downs. This is a well known phenomenon, especially since cattle will tend to huddle together in a storm for protection (in the middle of an open paddock ). I have also seen lightning hit a tree outside the house and dance all over the room, you don't need to be right in the path of the 'bolt' to be hit, and enough potential to disrupt the heart's electrical signal is all it can take; it doesn't need to leave burn marks.

Anyhow, I think Walter should travel back to eastern Kazakhstan and assure Zhan that it wasn't wolves that killed his cattle. I suggest a completely different route, converging only on Zhan's property .

Seriously, these are brilliant ride reports. I've followed them all. Cheers guys.

*edit* sorry Walter, we must have been posting at the same time. I'd delete the post if I knew how.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:37 AM   #1197
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when I leave my house depending on which direction I go I can be at 8 large grocery stores within 10 minutes. 3 of them within 2 miles. I can be at an Ikea in an hour. This guy's got fruit and a table cloth, bread, and god knows what else on hand. I don't. when I'm hungry I go buy something and a lot of it is already prepared. sometimes I have bread around and sometimes I'm too stupid and lazy to pay attention and half of it gets tossed when it gets moldy. I'm thinking my reality and his reality are worlds apart and even with all my american conveniences I could gain a lot more from his than he could from mine.


I think you'll find that rural people and in particular farmers in most parts of the world will have a good supply in their pantry and freezers simply because it is too far to the shops. I know we could probably survive for a couple of months on what my mum has at home.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:12 AM   #1198
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Because of the cross town traffic in Semipalatinsk the heat related problem of the KTM popt up again. So Terry shared some of his bikes amaizing horse power with Rod's bike on the other end of the rope. Now the connection of terry's fuel pump gotten worse as wel.
Almost every time we stopped Terry had to wiggle the connector under his seat to get the bike going again. The pin comming out of the fuel tank was now letting fuel trough to the outside of the tank.
With the cooler weather the KTM started again after being towed for some km's. The bike did fine the rest of the km's we did that day.
When the rain started to come down after we zipped up heading for the border the road felt like covered with soap.
Out of nothing Terry made a nice unexpected dance with his bike, which was scary to see. But he kept the right side up . So we took it easy for some time.
When we reached the first border crossing one of us noticed the KTM was missing its licence plate.( not a good thing when you are about to cross the border) So Rod and me drove back to search for it. We knew it was still on the bike a few km's back.
Allready getting dark at this time. So Rod was lucky to find it
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:25 AM   #1200
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Dont think it would be much fun getting caught in a thunder storm on the steppe with the bikes

I m sure now that you guys are back in Russia, Rod must be considering to put his bike on the
trans siberian train and say f&$# it!
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