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Old 12-08-2012, 07:22 AM   #3436
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International Motorcycle Show, Long Beach, CA

Walked the show last night. Finally got to see the Terra 650. Looks like the 630 but different. Looks to have the same suspension. Probably make a lot of people a very nice dualsport.

Specs revealed an 80lb weight gain though. Holy crap, that's double what I figured it would come in at. Oh my. I feel real bad for those that will take them offroad. It's just as bloated as the Sertao. I can hardly lift that one off the kickstand.

So even with my Dirtbagz and all my gear I'm just about up to the dry weight of the new Huski. OMG.



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Old 12-08-2012, 10:46 AM   #3437
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Chris, no way the Terra is in the same league as the TE630! Don't even think about it, if you ever really did. I think it will be a nice road bike with the ability to poke it's nose down a few reasonable trails. I'll have mine in Death Valley (along with the 630) and you can try it out if you like. Just keep it off of Lippencott or the trail to the Salt Trams!

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Old 12-08-2012, 03:35 PM   #3438
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Same Suspension? First, it's non-adjustable. Then...

TR650: GC: 8.1" Seat: 34.4" Travel f/r 7.5/ 7.5" Rake: 26.5* Trail: 4.41" WB: 59.1"
TE630: GC: 11.8" Seat: 37.2" Travel f/r 10.6/12.6" Rake: 30.0* Trail: 4.58" WB: 58.5"

Capabilities: All the difference in the world! TR better for the street - TE better off-road.

And...It is a Husky Sertao!
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:56 PM   #3439
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Same Suspension? First, it's non-adjustable. Then...

TR650: GC: 8.1" Seat: 34.4" Travel f/r 7.5/ 7.5" Rake: 26.5* Trail: 4.41" WB: 59.1"
TE630: GC: 11.8" Seat: 37.2" Travel f/r 10.6/12.6" Rake: 30.0* Trail: 4.58" WB: 58.5"

Capabilities: All the difference in the world! TR better for the street - TE better off-road.

And...It is a Husky Sertao!

What is 'GC'?
I did not realize there was that much difference in suspension. I just looked at the Terra forks and they looked the same.

BTW, the Terra had crappy (cheap) looking rims. I did notice that.

I'll be keeping my 630.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:05 PM   #3440
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Chris, no way the Terra is in the same league as the TE630! Don't even think about it, if you ever really did. I think it will be a nice road bike with the ability to poke it's nose down a few reasonable trails. I'll have mine in Death Valley (along with the 630) and you can try it out if you like. Just keep it off of Lippencott or the trail to the Salt Trams!

Ken
Speaking of the Salt Tram, you should plan to do that ride with us. I would love to do it again. Awesome scenery, you look across at the Sierra range, not up at it.

We came up the back side from the 395, down into Saline Valley. That's quite a downhill, certainly easier than trying to go up it.


Sierra range in the background here...

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Old 12-08-2012, 08:29 PM   #3441
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What is 'GC'?
I did not realize there was that much difference in suspension. I just looked at the Terra forks and they looked the same.
I'll be keeping my 630.
Sorry, I type too fast sometimes and forget my database short-hand doesn't always translate. "GC" is ground clearance. Sometimes analogus to seat height, and sometime correlates with suspension travel, but not always. Together with steering geometry and wheel-base, they give me a pretty good picture for comparing with other similar bikes - until the test ride, when it all goes out the window!
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:22 AM   #3442
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Sorry, I type too fast sometimes and forget my database short-hand doesn't always translate. "GC" is ground clearance. Sometimes analogus to seat height, and sometime correlates with suspension travel, but not always. Together with steering geometry and wheel-base, they give me a pretty good picture for comparing with other similar bikes - until the test ride, when it all goes out the window!
Ah, well yes, if they took 3" out of the suspension then it reduced the seat and ground clearance by the same. Wow. I can't imagine, even the 630 is pretty limited, it bottoms regularly if ridden hard. I may have to have mine updated/re-done.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:14 AM   #3443
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Has anyone attemped install of the compression adjusters, changed fork weight oil or volume and/or changed front springs in their forks?

Results?

Difficulties doing the install/labor?

Source for compression adjusters?





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Old 12-12-2012, 03:02 PM   #3444
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Has anyone attemped install of the compression adjusters, changed fork weight oil or volume and/or changed front springs in their forks?

Results?

Difficulties doing the install/labor?

Source for compression adjusters?





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Yes.

Adjuster was from Marzocchi and I purchased from my local suspension shop. I had the forks re-valved, so I can't compare with a stock setup.
I have a set of .52 springs, but haven't put them in yet.

I believe LT Racing has the adjusters in stock.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:46 PM   #3445
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I had LTR work on both forks and shock; a world of difference. While he was in there I had him remove the spacer in the forks to give me back the extra inch Husky took out on the 630. Nice. The stock rear spring was way too heavy and it was lightened quite a bit. Maybe a notch too much though. It's perfect when riding without gear, but sags just a bit much when fully loaded for full on adventure rides and can bottom on big hits. It's so cushy though I think I'll leave it alone since there is plenty of pre-load that can be cranked in when needed.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:48 PM   #3446
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Chris, if you guys do the Salt Tram again, I definitely want to go! Sounds like a challenge, and fun! I can't wait to load up and head for Death Valley again. Glad you are taking the RV this time as it has to be a LOT better than the tent.

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Old 12-12-2012, 10:12 PM   #3447
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Chris, if you guys do the Salt Tram again, I definitely want to go! Sounds like a challenge, and fun! I can't wait to load up and head for Death Valley again. Glad you are taking the RV this time as it has to be a LOT better than the tent.

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You got it. I'm going to try and get johngil to lead a ride again. Going to tell him to cut some of the sand going west ouf of Darwin though. It's an epic journey up there and just enough technical to make it fun.

I would like to get some suspension work done on mine for sure. Guess I'll have to look up this LTR guy.

The tent is fine. Been camping out in one all year while the coach sat. It finally needed some tires after eight years, they were getting cracked enough I didn't want to drive on them anymore. A blow out on the 19.5's can take half the fenderwell out. But yeah, it's a nice haven if the weather turns crappy. Besides, I think wifey and son are coming this year. I may have to bring the tiger too, take her on a tour, scotty's, ubehebe, etc.

Here's johngil at the salt tram cabin. The guy is a hardcore rider for sure.




Here's the dentist, the architect, and the computer wizz. In no particular order.




On the way to the tram site. And yes, there was snow up there.



The Salt Tram structure with Saline Valley below.

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Old 12-12-2012, 10:26 PM   #3448
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KTM guys just HAVE to wear some orange, don't they! That's a great shot and I wonder if I could talk you out of a copy? Taking along your Jet Boil for coffee was a stroke of genius and I've taken to copy lately. I'm running without racks lately and just using Wolfman Enduro bags as they carry plenty for day rides. Sounds like a wise move for the climb you described. I'm bringing my new Terra along to do some road and light gravel this time so I can save my knobbies. I also want to run out to Lone Pine and try to get up Mt. Whitney as it was closed for road maintenance last year. So much to see in DV.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:53 PM   #3449
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KTM guys just HAVE to wear some orange, don't they! That's a great shot and I wonder if I could talk you out of a copy? Taking along your Jet Boil for coffee was a stroke of genius and I've taken to copy lately. I'm running without racks lately and just using Wolfman Enduro bags as they carry plenty for day rides. Sounds like a wise move for the climb you described. I'm bringing my new Terra along to do some road and light gravel this time so I can save my knobbies. I also want to run out to Lone Pine and try to get up Mt. Whitney as it was closed for road maintenance last year. So much to see in DV.
Ha! Says a guy on a husky with red on, and his buddy just the same.


The jetboil goes in my mid-rolie bag on the back for cup-a-soup or coffee. Pretty nice when there's a chill in the air.

Here's my Osborne Cabin lunch spot.



The ol' browneye...at Osborne. I was solo and getting bored so I snapped a pic. Just as I was getting ready to head out, 8 other riders from my group showed up.





Up the canyon at Osborne

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Old 12-14-2012, 05:42 AM   #3450
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...Source for compression adjusters?
You can also get the compression adjusters through Husky. TE610 came with them in for a few years. Sometimes Husky parts are better priced than aftermarket.

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