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Old 12-19-2012, 05:53 AM   #1006
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Still cannot get confirmation from HRC that Zanol is out for sure although I really don't think it's a question any longer...it just hasn't been confirmed officially. They also haven't answered any of my questions if they will court any replacement riders.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:05 AM   #1007
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Still cannot get confirmation from HRC that Zanol is out for sure although I really don't think it's a question any longer...it just hasn't been confirmed officially. They also haven't answered any of my questions if they will court any replacement riders.
Re: Zanol - After being in a coma (induced or otherwise) only a month prior to the sart date the race, even if Felipé woke up from his hospital bed dancing and singing...It'd be a very brave doctor (team legal people) who would give a rider a "release" and declare them fit to ride after a blow to the melon like that...

Kinda like a KO in the boxing ring... wisest move is a mandatory time out - even if you do come up swinging.

As far as replacements go... No news on that front, and it's getting closer to "D day" every day that passes...
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:25 AM   #1008
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Even if we know nothing about his injury, it'd be down-right ridicules to send him to do a race like the Dakar after this incident.
I wouldn't let him ride a bumper car.


It would seem his medical condition is still complicated ...
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:50 AM   #1009
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Zanol back to Dakar - yes, but not before 2014 !
We remember all the crash from Luca Manca - until today he raced no more rallies !
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:19 AM   #1010
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Re: Zanol - After being in a coma (induced or otherwise) only a month prior to the sart date the race, even if Felipé woke up from his hospital bed dancing and singing...It'd be a very brave doctor (team legal people) who would give a rider a "release" and declare them fit to ride after a blow to the melon like that...

Kinda like a KO in the boxing ring... wisest move is a mandatory time out - even if you do come up swinging.

As far as replacements go... No news on that front, and it's getting closer to "D day" every day that passes...
He is still in hospital, so I believe that speaks for itself for now, fingers still crossed for a full recovery
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:27 AM   #1011
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He is still in hospital, so I believe that speaks for itself for now, fingers still crossed for a full recovery
Indeed. I also note that both Felipe and Sam have been removed from the official Dakar competitors list.
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Indeed. I also note that both Felipe and Sam have been removed from the official Dakar competitors list.
Yep, all on Helder now for HRC, but if Coma is out then it seems like the 1,2,3 challenge could be Cyril, Helder and Joan B? - but wide open for anyone staying in touch this year
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:13 PM   #1013
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Zanol back to Dakar - yes, but not before 2014 !
We remember all the crash from Luca Manca - until today he raced no more rallies !
Actually he did the Sardinia Rally 2011 and 2012 (17th overall)
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:28 PM   #1014
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Yep, all on Helder now for HRC, but if Coma is out then it seems like the 1,2,3 challenge could be Cyril, Helder and Joan B? - but wide open for anyone staying in touch this year
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:16 PM   #1015
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Yep, all on Helder now for HRC, but if Coma is out then it seems like the 1,2,3 challenge could be Cyril, Helder and Joan B? - but wide open for anyone staying in touch this year
Who is saying Coma is out?

How much 'notice' does he have to give us or is the veil of 'medically unfit' unlimited for time?
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:41 PM   #1016
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Yep, all on Helder now for HRC, but if Coma is out then it seems like the 1,2,3 challenge could be Cyril, Helder and Joan B? - but wide open for anyone staying in touch this year
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:57 PM   #1017
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Who is saying Coma is out?

How much 'notice' does he have to give us or is the veil of 'medically unfit' unlimited for time?
Competitors can pull out at any time, but of course, they get no refunds. Coma will have an announcement on Friday and make the ultimate determination at that point.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:29 PM   #1018
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Who is saying Coma is out?

Scurrilous rumours launched on the interwebz daily
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:24 PM   #1019
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Competitors can pull out at any time, but of course, they get no refunds. Coma will have an announcement on Friday and make the ultimate determination at that point.
Can he/they/team nominate a 'replacement' ?
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Can he/they/team nominate a 'replacement' ?
1.2 CANCELLATION AND REQUEST FOR REFUNDS
1) So as to avoid any ambiguity, cancellation of entries and requests for refunds must be sent by registered post. Cancellations and requests for refunds must be sent to:
A.S.O. – Dakar Competitors’ Department
253, Quai de la Bataille de Stalingrad – Immeuble Panorama B 92137 Issy les Moulineaux cedex - France
2) Refunds will be made by 31st March 2013 at the latest.
3) For all cancellation of entries, refunds will be made in the following manner:
 in the case of cancellations made before 1st September 2012 = €1,500 administration costs
retained;
 in the case of cancellations after 1st September 2012 = 100% of the amount owed retained.
4) In the case of a serious problem, justified by medical opinion (original document), the partial repayment of monies paid can only be made if requested by registered letter. €3,000 will be retained.


So it seems like you can pull out and get a substantial refund given the time, but Sept 1st, but not sure if the "serious problem" under item 4) would supersede 3.2, or exactly what 3.2 means?but it will be linked to the payment stages.

Nothing in there about replacements that I can see, but would imagine it would take a substantial effort from an influential team and the replacement rider would need to fulfill the original entry criteria - not too many options then from those not already in, but maybe a few options for a few but my money would be on not, so maybe all the speculation has been in vane?

For someone to put a replacement forward a big risk also as big money - would they really be Dakar ready?

Maybe there has been some history on replacements?

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