Robby Gordon 2013

[B-Rod]

Originally Posted by larryboy

Oh yeah, that's right.

Like my new avatar? It's the artwork off Robby's 2013 Dakar helmet.

Is that an angry spray paint can or something? Maybe a pissed off Drakkar for Dakar?

[frank wheelbarrow]

http://www.race-dezert.com/home/robb...lly-37211.html

[Dr. Greg]

Originally Posted by Strong Bad

...The really trick trannys are the ones VW used In their Dakar Race Touraegs made by Xtrac...you link it to the ignition system which cuts power for 1/25th of a second and the shift occurs in the middle of all of that lag time...

Uh, ignition system in a diesel? I know what you mean, but...

--Doc

[Thinc2]

Originally Posted by frank wheelbarrow

http://www.race-dezert.com/home/robb...lly-37211.html

He's pretty clear this is his last year at Dakar. Hope he does well.

[5 speed]

These two clips have the bad boy of the Dakar, Robby Gordon in action and he is back in the Dakar this year. Talk about a competitor, clearly his American Built V8 Hummer was superior to everything else. He stopped to help his teammate in two stages, flipped end over end in one and then made a bad decision on a full trailside repair of a bad hub that cost him too much time.

This is clip is just like the bully on the beach that kicks sand in the face of the opponent. I think Peterhansel the frenchman who eventually won was so pissed that is why he went to the french authorities and complained that Robby was ‘too fast’. Take that you little Mini Cooper driving b*i&$th !!! “Minis are for girls” He He

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70LYe...endscreen&NR=1

so they inspected his truck and disqualified him for a technicality and he drove under protest so he was allowed to continue and the next day he kicked everyones tail and after crossing the finish line for the stage, went up to the french team and told them to kiss his *&X!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFdgttin6E


Here is his previous years truck. Navigator didn’t do his job so he missed the turn, flips over and lands on his wheels. Gets out, checks out the truck and drives off like nothing ever happened. Listen to that V8 800HP. Rolling didn’t even damage it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOy3R...eature=related




What you really need to do is see the clips of him barreling straight down Iquique, largest sand dune in the world. They say he was about 135MPH at this point and Johnny Campbell, his codriver and like 11 time winner of the Baja 1000 said it was the most terrifying thing he has ever done:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfG3KgSR7fU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bS-3rN6Avc


How can you not love the guy?>?>

[HogWild]

Originally Posted by 5 speed

Navigator didn’t do his job so he missed the turn,

Navigator did his job just fine. There would be no note in the roadbook for a simple turn like that, and they have no tracks or maps on the GPS screen, so there is no way for him to know there was a turn there let alone how sharp it was. It's up to the driver to not drive faster than he can see.

[5 speed]

Originally Posted by HogWild

Navigator did his job just fine. There would be no note in the roadbook for a simple turn like that, and they have no tracks or maps on the GPS screen, so there is no way for him to know there was a turn there let alone how sharp it was. It's up to the driver to not drive faster than he can see.

are you sure about that? My understanding all along is that at top race speeds you are completely driving beyond what you can see which is why you have the roadbook/ co driver to begin with

[ArthDuro]

these are not pace notes like in WRC
what they use to follow the route is a road book so no

that issue was not due to the co pilot error
and the one he had in the car at that time is a pretty good one too

Originally Posted by 5 speed

are you sure about that? My understanding all along is that at top race speeds you are completely driving beyond what you can see which is why you have the roadbook/ co driver to begin with

[HogWild]

Originally Posted by 5 speed

are you sure about that? My understanding all along is that at top race speeds you are completely driving beyond what you can see which is why you have the roadbook/ co driver to begin with

In Baja the competitors prerun the course days ahead of race day (memorizing it), they have very accurate GPS tracks showing very inch of the course, and many have written course notes detailing hazards that they saw while prerunning. So, in Baja the co-driver IS responsible for letting the driver know about hazards including sharp curves, or even small curves if they are in heavy dust. Many drive completely blind in dust, following the GPS.

In Dakar and most other cross-country rally events it's completely different. The course is secret. The competitors don't know where it goes until they are on it racing, and even then it's easy to get lost. There are no course markers, no GPS tracks or maps, no prerunning, and no custom made course notes. Most of the time the only things they have for navigation are the official roadbook, their odometer, and a digital compass.

The roadbook usually indicates moderate and severe hazards, but not curves in the road, unless it's a particularly dangerous curve that might have a cliff or something really bad at the edge. It's not like WRC rally, where EVERY turn and bump is in the roadbook. In this type of rally, the job of the navigator is to tell the driver which way to go at intersections, and basic direction information like that. In a 300 mile Special, there typically might be 10 to 20 hazards marked in the roadbook, and a few hundred "turn left at this intersection" type directions. In those 300 miles, they might go through 5000 "curves" which are not in the roadbook. Think of the roadbook as the MINIMUM information needed to navigate your way through the stage, plus 20 or so SERIOUS marked hazards.

[larryboy]

Originally Posted by Thinc2

He's pretty clear this is his last year at Dakar. Hope he does well.

If he wins the overall I'd say he's done for good, otherwise we'll see him run Dakar again. Selling a major race team is a good way to dust off your hands for the next attempt.

[5 speed]

Originally Posted by HogWild

In Baja the competitors prerun the course days ahead of race day (memorizing it), they have very accurate GPS tracks showing very inch of the course, and many have written course notes detailing hazards that they saw while prerunning. So, in Baja the co-driver IS responsible for letting the driver know about hazards including sharp curves, or even small curves if they are in heavy dust. Many drive completely blind in dust, following the GPS.

In Dakar and most other cross-country rally events it's completely different. The course is secret. The competitors don't know where it goes until they are on it racing, and even then it's easy to get lost. There are no course markers, no GPS tracks or maps, no prerunning, and no custom made course notes. Most of the time the only things they have for navigation are the official roadbook, their odometer, and a digital compass.

The roadbook usually indicates moderate and severe hazards, but not curves in the road, unless it's a particularly dangerous curve that might have a cliff or something really bad at the edge. It's not like WRC rally, where EVERY turn and bump is in the roadbook. In this type of rally, the job of the navigator is to tell the driver which way to go at intersections, and basic direction information like that. In a 300 mile Special, there typically might be 10 to 20 hazards marked in the roadbook, and a few hundred "turn left at this intersection" type directions. In those 300 miles, they might go through 5000 "curves" which are not in the roadbook. Think of the roadbook as the MINIMUM information needed to navigate your way through the stage, plus 20 or so SERIOUS marked hazards.

Very Interesting!!! Thanks for the clarification. SO, I recall somewhere, I think it was Neduro stating last year that to be in top, top, you have to outdrive/ride your vision and count on the roadbook. So, if the info is not all in there, how is that accomplished??????

[HogWild]

Originally Posted by 5 speed

SO, I recall somewhere, I think it was Neduro stating last year that to be in top, top, you have to outdrive/ride your vision and count on the roadbook. So, if the info is not all in there, how is that accomplished??????

They have to rely on their riding skills and luck to save themselves when a surprise comes up, which often isn't enough. The roadbooks shows many of the worst hazards, but it's impossible to show them all. Even a small bump can be a race ending hazard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqT0PjKg0k0

[zenjen]

Are you F5 rallye addicted, when you know which clip you are going to view before you click on it?

[larryboy]

Originally Posted by HogWild

They have to rely on their riding skills and luck to save themselves when a surprise comes up, which often isn't enough. The roadbooks shows many of the worst hazards, but it's impossible to show them all.

and if something happens to the Rally Org's faves they will re-route the rally and give time back to those that ran head long into mud at speed.





Ok, back to Robby Gordon!!

If he sold the full Dakar team I bet that would fund any Nascar runs for 2013. Daytona and the road courses I'd think, he's got an honest chance to win those.

[5 speed]

Originally Posted by zenjen

Are you F5 rallye addicted, when you know which clip you are going to view before you click on it?

Yes you are and I figured it was Quinn, I noticed he was absent from the Roster this year.


Sorry back to Flash Gordon. I hope if he has a teammate he doesnt slow him down this year, not stop to lend him the spare parts when he is need, etc.