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Old 12-20-2012, 04:07 AM   #1726
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Those are some pretty pictures you took. I saved a few "for my personal pleasure" if you don't mind!

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Old 12-20-2012, 04:40 AM   #1727
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Just boil it - actually you don't even need to do that 76.5ēC will do the trick. In some parts of the world no matter the water source this should be done. For example some mountain streams in Canada have "Beaver Fever" which can make you quite sick.
I used to get "beaver fever" as a younger man , but that was I think something entirely different and the water never affected it.

Regarding the water, I'm with Walter, have alsways drunk out of fast flowing streams in Scotland, the Pyrennees , USA and did this time in Mong. I've never ailed for a minute but maybe I've just been lucky.

It's maybe as Nietsche says " what doesn't kill you makes you stronger".
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:41 AM   #1728
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That Valley was amazing!
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:53 AM   #1729
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i think that pic of the 'russian tourist' on beamster's bike gave me beaver fever.... i think i got it bad!....
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:00 AM   #1730
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Wow!!! Just stunning scenery!!!! Thanks for taking us along, Walter!!!
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:38 AM   #1731
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What the manufacturers tell us is the ultimate adventure bike



and what an experienced adventure rider creates



Does anyone else think that the manufacturers have a different agenda?

I can't help comparing the drive chain/sprocket combo weight with that of a GSA final drive system.

Out of interest what material is the sprocket machined from? I assume that it is machined from billet and not a casting?
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:53 AM   #1732
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I used to get "beaver fever" as a younger man , but that was I think something entirely different and the water never affected it.

Regarding the water, I'm with Walter, have alsways drunk out of fast flowing streams in Scotland, the Pyrennees , USA and did this time in Mong. I've never ailed for a minute but maybe I've just been lucky.

It's maybe as Nietsche says " what doesn't kill you makes you stronger".
"Beaver Fever" comes from an animal dieing in a stream, upstream of where you are drinking. For years I drank from creeks and rivers...one year I got the "fever". It was no joking matter, for 6 months I was sick.

Its like playing a game of Russian roulette

Great report, keep in coming please
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:23 AM   #1733
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Does anyone else think that the manufacturers have a different agenda?
Well they have an agenda to make maximum profits, not to make good adventure bikes. Specifically in the case of adventure bikes, they are two very different things. A good adventure bike should be as light as possible to allow it to go to places that really are an adventure. But for the manufacturers .... Bigger bikes = higher selling px = larger profits. So larger profits and more pruposeful adventure bikes are actually heading in opposite directions. Even within BMW, the only reason that nothing smaller than the 1200 is allowed be branded "Adventure" is because all the money and the profits are in the 1200 model. The 1200 is the only bike they (BMW Marketing) want to be associated as being RTW capable.

To be totally fair to the manufacturers, their job is to maximise profits. Not to make good adventure bikes.

The job of their marketing departments is to convince us they are making good adventure bikes when really their only concern is to maximise profits. Which brings us back to ... Bigger bikes = higher selling px = larger profits

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Out of interest what material is the sprocket machined from? I assume that it is machined from billet and not a casting?
Dirt Tricks Ironman sprocket ... I love them. Laser cut nickel chrome molybdenum steel. They have the weight of an aluminium sprocket and the longevity of steel ... I put a new one on before every major project and never have to worry about it again or carry a spare. I always get over 50,000 km (30,000 miles) from one.

http://www.dirttricks.com/ordering_sprockets.htm

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Old 12-20-2012, 07:42 AM   #1734
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thnks so far

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Old 12-20-2012, 07:59 AM   #1735
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Dirt Tricks Ironman sprocket ... I love them. Laser cut nickel crome molybdenum steel. They have the weight of an aluminium sprocket and the longevity of steel ... I put a new one on before every major project and never have to worry about it again or carry a spare. I always get over 50,000 km (30,000 miles) from one.

http://www.dirttricks.com/ordering_sprockets.htm

Nate there is your man.
I've started preparing my 640 Adventure for next year's big trip and was just exactly thinking which sprockets to install cause stock ones last only 6000-7000 km's for me
thanks for that!!
oh btw, did you order it directly from USA or from some EU vendor?

can't seem to find information if you are using rim locks on your tubes?
any advice?

i'm reading this RR everyday!
thanks for sharing and can't wait to see Mongolian part of it
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:03 AM   #1736
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"Beaver Fever" comes from an animal dying in a stream, upstream of where you are drinking. For years I drank from creeks and rivers...one year I got the "fever". It was no joking matter, for 6 months I was sick.

Its like playing a game of Russian roulette

Great report, keep in coming please
Ouch...point made.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:07 AM   #1737
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Colebatch and terry know how to not get sick with river water, just see the picture



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Old 12-20-2012, 08:10 AM   #1738
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Hmm!

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What the manufacturers tell us is the ultimate adventure bike


There is just so much that's so wrong in that pic. I love GSes, I have one but wouldn't take it off the slab unless it was a dare or a "lets just see".
We'll come back to this point, and the astonishing efficacy of BMWs marketing department in a few days with 2 German guys we met in Mongolia.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:15 AM   #1739
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Ouch...point made.
Sorry Deadly99, beaver fever isn't from dead animals. Beaver fever is also knowns as giardia, see this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giardia

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Old 12-20-2012, 08:38 AM   #1740
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Ray Mears seems to think it's fine to drink out of fast flowing water so long as it has a gravel bed and there's nothing dead it in it within 10 meters upstream. Ray Mears is the man, if it's good enough for him it's good enough for me.
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