Robby Gordon 2013

[barrier]

Originally Posted by RedRocket

Silly me, they were X5's.









You may get my point, eventually.

Almost there.....The factory team were X3's, well in name at least.

[larryboy]

Originally Posted by Strong Bad

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Haven been given the huge amount of time in GM's wind tunnel is a very big deal. Just being able to get any time in it is very difficult.

I've noticed that at least the roof is different on the 13 car, any other changes you know about?

[Strong Bad]

Originally Posted by larryboy

I've noticed that at least the roof is different on the 13 car, any other changes you know about?

Nope, I've not even seen the 13 car yet. You got pics?

[larryboy]

Originally Posted by Strong Bad

Nope, I've not even seen the 13 car yet. You got pics?

Here is the 13 car, bigger roof scoop:




and the 12 car:

[ric678]

hmmm.....Maybe the super scoop creates a super venturi effect for the super tire inflation deflation system

[Strong Bad]

Getting good air flow through a rear engine race car with a windshield is very difficult to do. I've heard that do to lack of experience with the guys building Nasser's cars, that it could be one of the things that bites them in the butt.

[larryboy]

Radiator is in front, cooling is a non-issue IMHO. The over rev Nasser was over heating because he kept throwing the belt due to over revs and the belt turns the water pump.

[Strong Bad]

Originally Posted by larryboy

Radiator is in front, cooling is a non-issue IMHO. The over rev Nasser was over heating because he kept throwing the belt due to over revs and the belt turns the water pump.

Forgot about that. His front mounted rads are what got him in the dooms in Africa.

[larryboy]

[Nailhead]

Originally Posted by larryboy

I get the relevance part, but credibility?

Yeah, credibility: RG is trying to establish a viable racing effort under a marque that wasn't.

[Nailhead]

Originally Posted by RedRocket

The MINI is actually a rebodied BMW X6 turbo diesel.

...and Mini is a marque that actually EXISTS, so I don't see the point really.

I realize some of the pragmatic aspects of this outwardly puzzling choice, but TO ME, said choice reinforces somewhat the "out-of-touch-redneck" impression European motor sports teams have historically tended to have about our own (re: Enzo & Henry). This seemed reinforced at Dakar 2012 by what I saw as an attitude of condescension & ridicule toward RG by Stephane Peterhansel, among others.

Unavoidable given the sponsorship situation perhaps, but that's how it sits with me.

[larryboy]

Originally Posted by Nailhead

Yeah, credibility: RG is trying to establish a viable racing effort under a marque that wasn't.

You must be lost, this is a final Dakar effort for this team, it'd be retarded to brand them as something for one race. He tried...past tense...to establish a racing effort under a marque that existed when he started, then moved to running the car as a remote control car for big boys...it was a Traxxas, not a Hummer. The guy doesn't own oil fields, he's a racer and has a race car.

[BELSTAFF]

Quite frankly, I simple love RG ,He just don't give a damn what anyone thinks

[Tarheel Wheeler]

Great thread guys, and as you can see from my screen name I'm one of those so-called red necks from NC. Git R Dun!

I think RG is a marketing genius...the Hummer has ties to all that is American. We still utilize the Hummer or a variant of it to carry our soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen on the battle field. No other current vehicle (at the selction time) could be more patriotic, have stronger ties to the adrenaline junkie that is our modern day warrior, or that "made in America" label.

What the heck has the Mini done for the French military...Oh nothin since the French military has done absolutely nothing either.

[VxZeroKnots]

Originally Posted by Nailhead

...and Mini is a marque that actually EXISTS, so I don't see the point really.

I realize some of the pragmatic aspects of this outwardly puzzling choice, but TO ME, said choice reinforces somewhat the "out-of-touch-redneck" impression European motor sports teams have historically tended to have about our own (re: Enzo & Henry). This seemed reinforced at Dakar 2012 by what I saw as an attitude of condescension & ridicule toward RG by Stephane Peterhansel, among others.

Unavoidable given the sponsorship situation perhaps, but that's how it sits with me.

You do realize you are talking about the French? Who, for better or worse they are famous amongst us colonials for their condescension. I doubt rebranding his truck would change that, especially given his give-zero-fucks attitude.