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Old 12-24-2012, 10:00 AM   #301
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Good Question??????
IMO: 450 cc max
Large fuel tank
Must use only road book
use GPS Cap headings ( no gps track file)
What gets me is... why is the roadbook only apply just to this class? I will be roadbook only.. but in the open class.
Oh well, is what it is.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:02 AM   #302
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Must use only road book
use GPS Cap headings ( no gps track file)
Please provide a link or reference for this.

I see this:

3.5 GPS Navigation
NORRA recommends all vehicles be equipped with a GPS that can display the event route such that competitors have the ability to comply with the official course, remain within the allowable course tolerance, pass though any virtual check points, and avoid any restricted areas. NORRA will provide the official course route in Lowrance .usr format. NORRA routes are not physically marked, however a route book is provided in addition to the GPS trail. It is the competitors responsibility to successfully navigate such that they follow the route and avoid penalties for non-compliance.

8.9 Category MRR450: 450cc Rally Raid Motorcycles
Any age motorcycle with a maximum displacement of 450cc.

But I see nothing that says road book and CAP heading only.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:08 AM   #303
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I was going by Mark's post. Looking again, I can not find it in the rulebook either.
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Please provide a link or reference for this.

I see this:

3.5 GPS Navigation
NORRA recommends all vehicles be equipped with a GPS that can display the event route such that competitors have the ability to comply with the official course, remain within the allowable course tolerance, pass though any virtual check points, and avoid any restricted areas. NORRA will provide the official course route in Lowrance .usr format. NORRA routes are not physically marked, however a route book is provided in addition to the GPS trail. It is the competitors responsibility to successfully navigate such that they follow the route and avoid penalties for non-compliance.

8.9 Category MRR450: 450cc Rally Raid Motorcycles
Any age motorcycle with a maximum displacement of 450cc.

But I see nothing that says road book and CAP heading only.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:21 AM   #304
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I made the same inferences. This isn't gonna make the guys building 500's, 530's and 640's with roadbooks happy.

From what I heard last year, there is really only a handful of people who will follow the roadbook exclusively. Adding a displacement limit makes the class pretty small.

I agree 100%

I know of 7 guys buliding aKTM 620 or 640 just for this event.
plus a few guys building XRR 650,KTM 500 & 530


Originally Posted by Baja Dad
Good Question??????
IMO: 450 cc max
Large fuel tank
Must use only road book
use GPS Cap headings ( no gps track file)


I am just guessing on this !
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:21 AM   #305
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Does seem odd that there is a 400cc max and a 450cc. I assume there will be more specifics on the 450 rally class. Guessing that is where I will fit in.

Made good progress at PT with my knee over the past week. Starting to look like I will recover in time for this!

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Old 12-24-2012, 10:48 AM   #306
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The very last class listed, over 50 400cc max doesn't mention 4 stroke like the other 400cc limited classes do. I'm wondering if its possible to race a 300 2 stroke in that class . Probably just a typo and limited to 250 2stroke.

I'd be more motivated to show up if I could ride a bike that I already own. I know I'm too slow to hang with fast guys on 690s on my 625 but since they dropped the 5 gallon min rule the 625 makes more sense.
Seems the new classes are making the xr650s less competitive.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:48 AM   #307
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I'm converting my 570 Berg to a full rally set-up with road-book, so the 450 limit on the rally class is affecting me as well (which is why I will end up in the M50+O class).

Oh well...
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:48 AM   #308
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The very last class listed, over 50 400cc max doesn't mention 4 stroke like the other 400cc limited classes do. I'm wondering if its possible to race a 300 2 stroke in that class . Probably just a typo and limited to 250 2stroke.

I'd be more motivated to show up if I could ride a bike that I already own. I know I'm too slow to hang with fast guys on 690s on my 625 but since they dropped the 5 gallon min rule the 625 makes more sense.
Seems the new classes are making the xr650s less competitive.
The thought of riding a 300cc two-stroke 1200 miles with nearly half of it being tarmac at highway speeds just makes my teeth shake
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:52 AM   #309
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The thought of riding a 300cc two-stroke 1200 miles with nearly half of it being tarmac at highway speeds just makes my teeth shake
No doubt. I can't believe that Luis is racing Dakar again (3rd time) on his KTM 150 2T (#150).
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no doubt. I can't believe that luis is racing dakar again (3rd time) on his ktm 150 2t (#150).
gotta love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:31 PM   #311
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Well, don't forget that the 2007-2011 690 is actually 654cc and the 2012-2013 are 690cc, which should confuse everyone but since I have the new motor, I'm in good shape

BD, why did you write the rules that way?
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:58 PM   #312
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I for one am wondering about some classes and year cut offs but have a few choices on bikes for 2013 in my garage....

I can't see riding anything under a 250... 2 or 4 stroke unless I was on a vintage class bike.


A sugesstion concerning rules Q and A ... Maybe we should make Anders thread here


NORRA Mexican 1000 - 2013 Rules / Updates

the go to for rule book questions and suggestions so it is consoladated and Norra can see our input.

Just a thought..
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:25 PM   #313
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Well, don't forget that the 2007-2011 690 is actually 654cc and the 2012-2013 are 690cc, which should confuse everyone but since I have the new motor, I'm in good shape

BD, why did you write the rules that way?
I was wondering about that. Seems they don't have a good sense for their audience.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:37 PM   #314
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I was wondering about that. Seems they don't have a good sense for their audience.
Thats what I thought but you can't make everyone happy, you'll drive yourself nuts. Personally, I just want to ride, the class structure is really just an after thought to me. Merry Xmas everyone!



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Old 12-24-2012, 04:08 PM   #315
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Thats what I thought but you can't make everyone happy, you'll drive yourself nuts. Personally, I just want to ride, the class structure is really just an after thought to me. Merry Xmas everyone!
yeah less worried about what class I am in.... more just focused on making it all the way to Cabo without any issues this time.

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