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Old 03-02-2011, 10:16 PM   #16
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I don't know anything, but I'm going to say no, it won't be a direct swap.

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I know even less but I say a resounding YES!
Just to be obtuse.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:26 PM   #17
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several have said they are Excel rims...and yes they are strong.
it's still a heavy bike and they can be bent...there are pics floating around adv of one.

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Yamaha are not using the tubeless Behr Cross spoke perimeter design as used on BMW GS's. Not even close to the Yamaha design. The GS Behr wheels are notorious for being soft ... easily dented off road. See Woody's Wheel Works and ask him how many GS riders have swapped stock Cross Spoke Behr wheels for the Japanese Excel wheels he sells.

I'm guessing the Super Tenere' uses Excel wheels ... not Behr.

Any bets they'll be very hard to dent? ... unlike the butter soft Behr product.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:31 PM   #18
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mmm.
for years everyone on adv wanted a mid-weight multi-cycl. adv bike with a
21" front spoked wheel...and now triumph is making one...and now hundreds of people want to ditch the 21" for a 19"???
my guess a handfull of people, maybe.

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The new Yamaha Super Tenere' wheel is also a possibility. Pretty trick system. Don't know who makes it ... most likely either DID or Excel ...
It uses a trick raised center bead where spokes fasten in, but it's a tubeless wheel. Should be very stout off road ... looks good too.

I'd bet someone could adapt it to the Tiger 800 or maybe whoever makes it would make one to fit the Tiger? I'd bet they'd sell hundreds.


The Tiger 800 needs these wheels!
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:41 PM   #19
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the coment was on the wheel design, straight pulls it would appear.
I can't help it if they use the wrong alloy and there's no excuse for that.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:50 PM   #20
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mmm.
for years everyone on adv wanted a mid-weight multi-cycl. adv bike with a
21" front spoked wheel...and now triumph is making one...and now hundreds of people want to ditch the 21" for a 19"???
my guess a handfull of people, maybe.
My comments only relate to going with a tubeless version of the 21" XC spoked wheel, not a conversion to a 19".

I used the Yam double ridge center spoke design on the Tenere' as an idea, just a starting point .... even though it's a 19" .... I'm sure it could be made in 21" sizes.

Sorry, I should have specified ... but frankly I forgot the Tenere' uses a 19" front .... I was thinking it was a 21" also.

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Old 03-03-2011, 07:28 AM   #21
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the coment was on the wheel design, straight pulls it would appear.
I can't help it if they use the wrong alloy and there's no excuse for that.
FWIW, the Super Ten wheels don't use straight-pull spokes. They have a 90-degree bend at the end to go into the rim flanges.

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Old 03-03-2011, 08:30 AM   #22
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mmm. for years everyone on adv wanted a mid-weight multi-cycl. adv bike with a 21" front spoked wheel...and now triumph is making one...and now hundreds of people want to ditch the 21" for a 19"??? my guess a handfull of people, maybe.
It's not a matter of "ditching" the 21" front (for me anyway), it's the ability to swap between the two sizes and increasing the versitility of the bike.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:52 AM   #23
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Please advice, I am 5'7'' tall and intending to buy the Tiger XC800.

Will the swapping to 19" help reducing the seat height of the bike from 845mm (32.2in)

I have been riding the FZ6 and i find it a little high ... But i would prefer a bike with 770 to 790 mm seat height.

Advice on reducing the height of the Tiger 800XC is welcome.

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Old 02-03-2012, 07:31 AM   #24
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Will the swapping to 19" help reducing the seat height of the bike from 845mm (32.2in)
#1 option; new seat. Have you looked at the low gel seat? In the lower of the two positions it may be the trick.

#2 option; instead of switching wheels, you could use a lowering link for the rear suspension, and move the forks up in the triples a little bit to drop the front. You'll lose ground clearance but not give up suspension travel.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:00 PM   #25
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#2 option; instead of switching wheels, you could use a lowering link for the rear suspension, and move the forks up in the triples a little bit to drop the front. You'll lose ground clearance but not give up suspension travel.[/QUOTE]

Thank you Yossarian.. this seems to be a good option.

Cheers!!
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:07 PM   #26
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If your primary concern is the wheel being tubeless, not its diameter, it would be a lot easier to just send your stock wheel to a specialist like Woody's to be sealed.

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Just to get this out there, Woody's cannot seal a 21" wheel. Period. When I was deciding on whether to go with an 800 or an 800 XC I talked to Woody's to find out about sealing the XC's wheels. They can do the rear wheel, not the front.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:47 PM   #27
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It's not a matter of "ditching" the 21" front (for me anyway), it's the ability to swap between the two sizes and increasing the versitility of the bike.

Why? What do you gain with a smaller wheel? Especially a smaller wheel on a bike thats not made for a smaller wheel...
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:48 PM   #28
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several have said they are Excel rims...and yes they are strong.
it's still a heavy bike and they can be bent...there are pics floating around adv of one.

They are Excel rims (spoked). There is a part number on the wheel.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:49 PM   #29
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#2 option; instead of switching wheels, you could use a lowering link for the rear suspension, and move the forks up in the triples a little bit to drop the front. You'll lose ground clearance but not give up suspension travel.
Thank you Yossarian.. this seems to be a good option.

Cheers!!

unless you bottom out the frame before you use all of your suspension.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:52 AM   #30
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Been thinking about the 19" on the new EXP XC. Could it be a direct swap with the 800?
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