The Sandbox Oil Change Discussion

[Scribe]

Originally Posted by Mugwest

When knives ban calling, what's next???

See actually, it's one long compound modifier: "Doctors'-kitchen-knives-ban call. But that's too fucked up even for the Brits. Your interpretation is much closer to what an average reader would think. And it's just silly.

[DaMonk45]

Originally Posted by _cy_

from Mossad Ayoob http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/Massa...inst-monsters/
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After the Ma’alot massacre in 1974, Israel instituted a policy in which volunteer school personnel, parents, and grandparents received special training from the civil guard, and were seeded throughout the schools armed with discreetly concealed 9mm semiautomatic pistols. Since that time, there has been no successful mass murder at an Israeli school, and every attempt at such has been quickly shortstopped by the good guys’ gunfire, with minimal casualties among the innocent. Similar programs are in place in Peru and the Phillippines, with similarly successful results.

Some people see the logic in the Israeli approach.

[Hatch]

Originally Posted by DaMonk45

+1

In response to the increased violence in public places, I agree more guns IS the answer. But along with those new guns, must come training and education, and a greater respect for fellow man (and the heat he's packing)

[nowgrn4]

Fuk the Hollywood hypocrites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=k1SZurGArxE

[rider1150gsadv]

I wish America would ban it's stupid politicians...

[Warin]

Originally Posted by rider1150gsadv

I wish America would ban it's stupid politicians...

Why stop with America? Politicians should be licenced, the number of licences should be reduced each election to a maximum of say 0.00001% of the population or 150 whichever is the less? Licences could be revoked by a court of Law?

A rule of thumb for politicians - the more you have, the more stupidity you get. And it is something like an exponential relationship? Certainly not linear. One of the reasons I'm against State Governments - eliminate them and you get rid of so many politicians!!!!

[kmccarthy]

I agree that a gun ban is not the answer. That would simply favor the bad guys, who don't care about laws. The problem is that it is just too easy for bad guys and unqualified good guys to get a gun in FL (and other states) today.

We require training and licensing for driving, practicing medicine, being an electrician, a plumber, etc... Why not for firearms? I think every citizen with a clean criminal and phychological record should be entitled to own a gun, as long as they have the proper training and licensing. This will help insure that less weapons end up in the hands of bad guys and kids, while not infringing on our right to bear arms .

A determined criminal will always find a way to get a gun. However, more restrictive licensing will deter some of them, particularly the mentally disturbed ones. I doubt Adam Lansa would have had the ability or the means to purchase assault weapons on the black market. And if his mother had been properly trained, she would have kept her weapons in a safe.

The gun show loophole really scares me. I've personally seen gun transactions occurr with absolutely no scrutiny. They buyer could have easily been a terrorist or mass murderer.

We don't need a gun ban, but we do need more control. You wouldn't fly in a plane with an unlicensed pilot, would you?

[Hatch]

Originally Posted by kmccarthy

required training and licensing

you already have that. you must have a drivers license and background check. that is dangerous thinking sir - the next step is a national gun registry. what's next? oooh, they come to all registered gun owners to inform them that they must relinquish their guns or go to federal prison.

licensing doesn't work. how many people are on the roads today with fully legal drivers licenses that have absolutely NO business operating a machine? How many plumbers/electricians/contractors are shady sketchy shitty workers that cut corners and do poor work?

I maintain that "The unfettered right to own and bear arms consecrates individual sovereignty and ordains the right of self-defense. The Second Amendment symbolizes and proclaims individuals’ right to defend themselves personally against any and all threatened deprivations of life, liberty, or property, including attempted deprivations by the government. The symbolism of a heavily armed citizenry says loudly and unequivocally to the government, 'Don’t Tread On Me.'"

Quoted from this article (a good read)

[FL Pepper]

When you give up your rights and freedoms, you never get them back.

Case in Point

[Philip Kuntz]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Benjamin Franklin

[Hatch]

Originally Posted by FL Pepper

When you give up your rights and freedoms, you never get them back.

Case in Point

indeed.

[nowgrn4]

Simple Letter To My Elected Representatives.
Something short and sweet these crooks can understand;

Dear..............,

Do you remember the political push back after Clintons AWB?

The Mid Terms are less than two years away.

Watching,
................

[jaydee1445]

listen to the teachers

[jaydee1445]

Admonishment form Russia: Never give up your guns

It's a sad state of affairs when Pravda is the only one telling the truth

[jaydee1445]

If this shit passes stock up on flares