Rally Navigator - Time for Beta Testing - Any takers?

RenoMoto · 12-29-2012, 09:55 PM

Inmates:

We are ready for Rally Navigator Beta testing to get feedback.

Rally Navigator is a new, simple way to create Rally routes and print roadbooks.

Using the power of Google Earth and your GPS, you can create, print, and share a Dakar-style roadbook.

As usual we were hoping for more progress, but have run out of time as Dave (GSNorCal) is headed off to Peru for the Dakar Rally tomorrow (Wish I was going with him!!!). That said, it looks pretty good!

I would like to get 5-10 new users testing the program, get some feedback, make updates and then let another additional group of users take a test drive.

If you want full access to create and print roadbooks, please email me mike@rallynavigator.com (No PM's I need your email to send an invite)

I would appreciate all constructive feedback as we continue to develop this project.

Sorry for the cross post - If I violated the ADVRider code of ethics - Feel free to NUKE.

Thanks,
Mike

BC61 · 12-30-2012, 05:37 AM

Mike, Sent you an email yesterday. If you didn't receive it let me know, I'll resend.
Thanks,
Bill

Gian · 12-30-2012, 05:51 AM

email sent right now

italrally · 12-30-2012, 08:05 AM

sent my email yesterday ?

Mr. DNA · 12-30-2012, 08:13 AM

I sent an email yesterday as well. I hope I can help out with testing.

Baja Dad · 12-30-2012, 08:23 AM

Sent you an email !!

Shockdoc · 12-30-2012, 09:20 AM

Email sent

RenoMoto · 12-30-2012, 09:41 AM

Hello:

If you didnt get an invite to the site, Please resend your email

Mike@rallynavigator.com

Thanks,
Mike

Evil Invader · 12-30-2012, 11:09 AM

Email sent!

wrk2surf · 12-30-2012, 12:36 PM

too bad there is snow...

Assfault · 12-30-2012, 01:03 PM

Email sent for consideration.

crankshaft · 12-30-2012, 05:07 PM

Wow, great program so far! I just uploaded a GPX file to mess around with.

RenoMoto · 12-30-2012, 11:42 PM

Team:

Based on your feedback we have already made improvements to Rally Navigator.

Just today we made programming updates to speed loading time and also improve the function of the rotating "Loading" icon, you will also see in the roadbook header a Status Bar with a readout of the track points as they load from the library. This lets you know things are progressing and not "Frozen" as some have reported.

Rally Navigator can run much more quickly on Firefox with the following configuration changes (which we strongly recommend).

Check out: http://www.planetinaction.com/speedtest/ For complete info and to Speed Test your system:

Google Earth plugin API speed test

This speed test issues a number of Google Earth plugin API calls for every frame drawn. The number of frames per second is a measure on how fast this is done. On a decent computer you should get 20 - 50 fps.

Speed things up 5 times or more...

If you are using Chrome or Firefox 4 or newer you should read this!!!

The Google Earth plugin needs to communicate with the Javascript code that runs in the browser. This means that there are two processes that need to talk to each other. This is called "Inter Process Communication" IPC for short. Browser makers have tried to make the browser more robust by treating the IPC calls with more care. That is very nice of them but someone forgot to consider the performance penalty.

Applications on Planetinaction.com typically make thousands of calls per second to the Google Earth plugin. If each of those calls takes a tiny amount longer you immediately suffer massive performance penalties. These can be in the order of 5 - 10 times slower that they should be.

Fortunately in Firefox you can turn of the IPC protection to the plugin. If you type "about:config" into your address bar, you'll get to a page with a lot of settings. Find the line for "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled = true" and toggle it to "false". Restart your browser and things should run much better.

I have had my personal computer set like this for months with no ill effects.

My Speed Test Results after the IPC configuration change:

Google Earth plugin version:6.2.2.6613
Average FPS over the recorded 10 seconds is: 61.65

While we are working to streamline Rally Navigator interaction with Google Earth this is a great improvement.

Rally Navigator works best on GE version 6.2, not the new 7.0

Get Google Earth 6.2 here

Please let me know if you have good results with these IPC browser updates and also the updates to the Rally Navigator code.

Also, take a look at a quick overview of Rally Navigator usage. Some users weren't clear on basic functions.

Sorry about all of the special configurations and set up tricks.....that's why they call it "Beta"!

Thanks to all testers,
Mike

Motorfiets · 12-31-2012, 02:56 AM

Request resent

neduro · 12-31-2012, 03:25 AM

Have been using it in chrome, wondering at the (lack of) speed, will try in Firefox. The ui is amazingly awesome!

12-29-2012, 09:55 PM	#1
RenoMoto ^OP Rally Navigator Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Sitting at My Computer Oddometer: 122	Rally Navigator - Time for Beta Testing - Any takers? Inmates: We are ready for Rally Navigator Beta testing to get feedback. Rally Navigator is a new, simple way to create Rally routes and print roadbooks. Using the power of Google Earth and your GPS, you can create, print, and share a Dakar-style roadbook. As usual we were hoping for more progress, but have run out of time as Dave (GSNorCal) is headed off to Peru for the Dakar Rally tomorrow (Wish I was going with him!!!). That said, it looks pretty good! I would like to get 5-10 new users testing the program, get some feedback, make updates and then let another additional group of users take a test drive. If you want full access to create and print roadbooks, please email me mike@rallynavigator.com (No PM's I need your email to send an invite) I would appreciate all constructive feedback as we continue to develop this project. Sorry for the cross post - If I violated the ADVRider code of ethics - Feel free to NUKE. Thanks, Mike __________________ Mike Shirley Double Diamond Athletic Club - Reno - Nevada 500 XCW - 950 Adventure - 690 Duke Pics - Moto - Dakar Rally - Rally Mongolia - TAT - F1 - Sports Cars - Crap Rally Navigator - Create, Print & Share Rally Routes with Google Earth. RenoMoto screwed with this post 12-29-2012 at 11:59 PM

12-30-2012, 05:37 AM	#2
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12-30-2012, 08:05 AM	#4
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12-30-2012, 09:41 AM	#8
RenoMoto ^OP Rally Navigator Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Sitting at My Computer Oddometer: 122	Email invite to Rally Navigator Hello: If you didnt get an invite to the site, Please resend your email Mike@rallynavigator.com Thanks, Mike __________________ Mike Shirley Double Diamond Athletic Club - Reno - Nevada 500 XCW - 950 Adventure - 690 Duke Pics - Moto - Dakar Rally - Rally Mongolia - TAT - F1 - Sports Cars - Crap Rally Navigator - Create, Print & Share Rally Routes with Google Earth.

12-30-2012, 05:51 AM	#3
Gian dreamer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: north east of Italy Oddometer: 645	email sent right now

12-30-2012, 08:13 AM	#5
Mr. DNA Motorcycling Professor Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Timmins, Ontario Oddometer: 10	I sent an email yesterday as well. I hope I can help out with testing.

12-30-2012, 09:20 AM	#7
Shockdoc Adventurer Joined: Oct 2010 Location: So. Cal. Oddometer: 46	Email sent

12-30-2012, 11:09 AM	#9
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12-30-2012, 12:36 PM	#10
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12-30-2012, 01:03 PM	#11
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12-30-2012, 05:07 PM	#12
crankshaft Guns are for pussies Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Burlingtron,VT Oddometer: 13,783	Wow, great program so far! I just uploaded a GPX file to mess around with. __________________ Just say'IN

12-30-2012, 11:42 PM	#13
RenoMoto ^OP Rally Navigator Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Sitting at My Computer Oddometer: 122	Beta Team - directions to speed up Firefox browser Team: Based on your feedback we have already made improvements to Rally Navigator. Just today we made programming updates to speed loading time and also improve the function of the rotating "Loading" icon, you will also see in the roadbook header a Status Bar with a readout of the track points as they load from the library. This lets you know things are progressing and not "Frozen" as some have reported. Rally Navigator can run much more quickly on Firefox with the following configuration changes (which we strongly recommend). Check out: http://www.planetinaction.com/speedtest/ For complete info and to Speed Test your system: Google Earth plugin API speed test This speed test issues a number of Google Earth plugin API calls for every frame drawn. The number of frames per second is a measure on how fast this is done. On a decent computer you should get 20 - 50 fps. Speed things up 5 times or more... If you are using Chrome or Firefox 4 or newer you should read this!!! The Google Earth plugin needs to communicate with the Javascript code that runs in the browser. This means that there are two processes that need to talk to each other. This is called "Inter Process Communication" IPC for short. Browser makers have tried to make the browser more robust by treating the IPC calls with more care. That is very nice of them but someone forgot to consider the performance penalty. Applications on Planetinaction.com typically make thousands of calls per second to the Google Earth plugin. If each of those calls takes a tiny amount longer you immediately suffer massive performance penalties. These can be in the order of 5 - 10 times slower that they should be. Fortunately in Firefox you can turn of the IPC protection to the plugin. If you type "about:config" into your address bar, you'll get to a page with a lot of settings. Find the line for "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled = true" and toggle it to "false". Restart your browser and things should run much better. I have had my personal computer set like this for months with no ill effects. My Speed Test Results after the IPC configuration change: Google Earth plugin version:6.2.2.6613 Average FPS over the recorded 10 seconds is: 61.65 While we are working to streamline Rally Navigator interaction with Google Earth this is a great improvement. Rally Navigator works best on GE version 6.2, not the new 7.0 Get Google Earth 6.2 here Please let me know if you have good results with these IPC browser updates and also the updates to the Rally Navigator code. Also, take a look at a quick overview of Rally Navigator usage. Some users weren't clear on basic functions. Sorry about all of the special configurations and set up tricks.....that's why they call it "Beta"! Thanks to all testers, Mike __________________ Mike Shirley Double Diamond Athletic Club - Reno - Nevada 500 XCW - 950 Adventure - 690 Duke Pics - Moto - Dakar Rally - Rally Mongolia - TAT - F1 - Sports Cars - Crap Rally Navigator - Create, Print & Share Rally Routes with Google Earth. RenoMoto screwed with this post 12-31-2012 at 01:21 AM

12-31-2012, 02:56 AM	#14
Motorfiets Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: North of Jack Daniel's, South of Country Music Oddometer: 2,970	Request resent __________________ Ben My Photo's

12-31-2012, 03:25 AM	#15
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