Help with oill filter removal!!!

qman8 · 01-01-2013, 08:24 AM

A quick forum search revealed no related items.....
I just cant seem to get the damn oil filter off my 09 1200GS. I've tried the old screwdriver poked thru it method ...just ripped it up and it did not budge. I broke TWO filter wrenches...One while trying to torque it off with a 1/2 inch ratchet! I was using all the muscle I had at that time when it snapped! I had let the bike cool for several days after the oil drain before I was able to get back at trying to remove the filter. Would a cold (winter) engine and filter prevent me from turning this damn thing??? Cant run the engine to heat things up now with a broken filter !
The dealer put the last filter on...maybe he used a friggin impact driver!!!????

One person suggested buying the cup type wrench and drilling several holes thru it and thru the bottom of the filter, then run sheet metal screws thru both, and then try wrenching it!
That might be my next try!

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks

mouthfulloflake · 01-01-2013, 08:28 AM

Ive used the 3 screws method before, straight up into the filter, and outside of the center 1" or so to avoid the mounting boss

just be careful down there.

I recall reading where someguy used the screwdriver through the filter method and cracked the engine case down there.

LaurelPerryOnLand · 01-01-2013, 08:28 AM

With all that effort....are you sure:

You're TURNING in the correct direction?

Left to loosey...Right to tightee?

Otherwise...never mind.

larryboy · 01-01-2013, 08:40 AM

I've had one fight me on my 1150, before I tore up the filter too much I welded a nut on the filter and got that thing out of there, put it on myself and can't explain why it wouldn't come off.

qman8 · 01-01-2013, 08:59 AM

Unless BMW has left-hand threads on the filter....I wouldnt put such a thing past those Teutonic geniuses. These are the same guys who designed the 3 different fasteners to secure the bash plate!
Looking at the new filter's threads, NO, I was turning (or trying to turn) in the proper direction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurelPerryOnLand

With all that effort....are you sure:

You're TURNING in the correct direction?

Left to loosey...Right to tightee?

Otherwise...never mind.

kimokk · 01-01-2013, 09:21 AM

Did you try a strap wrench? It might be tight but worth a try. Maybe heat up the filter with mini butane torch.

Happy BMW · 01-01-2013, 09:44 AM

can you post a picture that would help a little. when yu put new filters on are you lubeing the filter first?

GS Addict · 01-01-2013, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy BMW

can you post a picture that would help a little. when yu put new filters on are you lubeing the filter first?

Read his post:
"The dealer put the last filter on...maybe he used a friggin impact driver!!!???"

Britome · 01-01-2013, 10:37 AM

Go to autozone and the the wrench adapter that has 3 fingers that hand down and gets progressively tighter on any oil filter as you tighten/loosen.

larryboy · 01-01-2013, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britome

Go to autozone and the the wrench adapter that has 3 fingers that hand down and gets progressively tighter on any oil filter as you tighten/loosen.

Won't fit.

Weld nut on end of filter, take off, done.

GS Addict · 01-01-2013, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryboy

Won't fit.

Weld nut on end of filter, take off, done.

Gas weld or electric?
If electric I'd be real careful where the ground is placed. Lots of possible issues with the bikes electronics.

Twempie · 01-01-2013, 10:45 AM

Would an overnight soak in a releasing agent help?

JimVonBaden · 01-01-2013, 10:55 AM

At this point your rubber seal is "welded" for lack of a better term, to your motor case.

By your description I assume the filter is now somewhat shredded? If so, remove what is left of the can and expose the baseplate. Use a couple screws through a steel filter tool into the baseplate. Make sure they are short and thick. Then you can twist it off. I suggest turning it tighter slightly if possibe first. Heat might help as well.

Jim

oalvarez · 01-01-2013, 11:04 AM

a pair of these and some heat as Jim suggests

larryboy · 01-01-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GS Addict

If electric I'd be real careful where the ground is placed. Lots of possible issues with the bikes electronics.

MIG, clamp ground to nut, weld on, no issue.

Don't think those pliers will fit on the 1200, better than the 1150, don't think they'll grab.

Chisel and hammer on the filter base plate.

01-01-2013, 08:24 AM	#1
qman8 ^OP GS09 Joined: Jan 2012 Location: ohio Oddometer: 231	Help with oill filter removal!!! A quick forum search revealed no related items..... I just cant seem to get the damn oil filter off my 09 1200GS. I've tried the old screwdriver poked thru it method ...just ripped it up and it did not budge. I broke TWO filter wrenches...One while trying to torque it off with a 1/2 inch ratchet! I was using all the muscle I had at that time when it snapped! I had let the bike cool for several days after the oil drain before I was able to get back at trying to remove the filter. Would a cold (winter) engine and filter prevent me from turning this damn thing??? Cant run the engine to heat things up now with a broken filter ! The dealer put the last filter on...maybe he used a friggin impact driver!!!???? One person suggested buying the cup type wrench and drilling several holes thru it and thru the bottom of the filter, then run sheet metal screws thru both, and then try wrenching it! That might be my next try! Any help is appreciated! Thanks

01-01-2013, 08:28 AM	#2
mouthfulloflake Not afraid Joined: Aug 2008 Location: N.W. Arkansas Oddometer: 11,254	Ive used the 3 screws method before, straight up into the filter, and outside of the center 1" or so to avoid the mounting boss just be careful down there. I recall reading where someguy used the screwdriver through the filter method and cracked the engine case down there. __________________ "A little inaccuracy sometimes saves a ton of explanation." - H. H. Munro (Saki) (1870-1916)

01-01-2013, 08:28 AM	#3
LaurelPerryOnLand Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Denver, CO Oddometer: 2,418	I dare not ask...but I will... With all that effort....are you sure: You're TURNING in the correct direction? Left to loosey...Right to tightee? Otherwise...never mind.

01-01-2013, 09:21 AM	#6
kimokk Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2009 Location: NOVA Oddometer: 103	Did you try a strap wrench? It might be tight but worth a try. Maybe heat up the filter with mini butane torch. __________________ '09 BMW R1200GSA Adventure! IBA #49426

01-01-2013, 10:45 AM	#12
Twempie Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2011 Location: West Seattle Oddometer: 100	Tri-Flow or WD40? Would an overnight soak in a releasing agent help?

01-01-2013, 08:40 AM	#4
larryboy Paint it black. Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Über Alles,Ca Oddometer: 12,875	I've had one fight me on my 1150, before I tore up the filter too much I welded a nut on the filter and got that thing out of there, put it on myself and can't explain why it wouldn't come off.

01-01-2013, 09:44 AM	#7
Happy BMW Litter Box Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Whitefish MT Oddometer: 50	can you post a picture that would help a little. when yu put new filters on are you lubeing the filter first?

01-01-2013, 10:37 AM	#9
Britome Get Free Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Cincinnati, OH Oddometer: 722	Go to autozone and the the wrench adapter that has 3 fingers that hand down and gets progressively tighter on any oil filter as you tighten/loosen.

01-01-2013, 10:55 AM	#13
JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid! Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Oddometer: 41,491	At this point your rubber seal is "welded" for lack of a better term, to your motor case. By your description I assume the filter is now somewhat shredded? If so, remove what is left of the can and expose the baseplate. Use a couple screws through a steel filter tool into the baseplate. Make sure they are short and thick. Then you can twist it off. I suggest turning it tighter slightly if possibe first. Heat might help as well. Jim __________________ Click here for BMW Maintenance and Repair DVDs and Corrections. "Combo-Order Discounts!"

01-01-2013, 11:04 AM	#14
oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin Joined: Dec 2007 Location: CA HWY 2 Oddometer: 1,699	a pair of these and some heat as Jim suggests __________________ 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale 2012 Ducati MTS1200St Ti 2003 Aprilia Tuono Racing 2012 Vespa 300 Super past: Ducatis, Aprilias, Moto Guzzis, a Husky, and some BMWs as well.

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