Concours C14 thread

[ABADV]

Quote: Mostly just curious and trying not to eyeball the ribeye sitting in the fridge, right next to the Fat Tire Winter Ale and the German Chocolate Cake, all conspiring to lower my HP rating.

[nunzo]

Originally Posted by SimpleSimon

No kidding....the stock can is a boat anchor. The CS One ships with a silencer and sounds fantastic once you start climbing the RPMs. I took it out today and it ran like my 954! Very impressed with this setup.

New to the C14 and really like the looks and sound of the V&H CS one. With the increased flow, do you need to remap(reflash) the ecu?

[cablebandit]

Not with just a slip-on

[Newbusa]

I have one on my C14 and it runs fine without the PC or reflash,but having said that i will be reflashing the ecu for more bottom end.

[thetable]

Originally Posted by nunzo

New to the C14 and really like the looks and sound of the V&H CS one. With the increased flow, do you need to remap(reflash) the ecu?

I have a AreaP on my otherwise stock '09, and the exhaust gas analyzer on the dyno says I'm still running rich.

[SimpleSimon]

I pulled the flies when I put on the CS One and added a Power Commander V. I ordered the Power Commander from fuelmoto and the guy specializes in supplying various maps for the CS14. I had him provide me one and it works great. Definately sounds like a mean machine with that CS One rapped out.

[Bryn]

Well, I mentioned that I'm very close to Hilltop motorycles in Earl Shilton, (UK) and Geoff there has had a steady stream of GS's and various other bikes through the door for one of his dyno/remap sessions....

www.hilltopmotorcycles.com is where to find him

So on his advice I paid a visit today... and the first job was to whip the tank off to get to the secondary butterflies . I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to actually remove the tank, rather than prop it up and have to work underneath it

Anyway, you've no doubt seen what secondary butterflies look like... so I didn't take any photo's until they were off and the bike was up on the dyno. We didn't bother with an initial dyno run pre-butterfly removal, just the set up afterwards.

First thing Geoff did was plug in his box of tricks and download a completely different map into the ECU.... and then he was able to tweak the map to sort my GTR.




Haven't a clue what he was doing, and as it was quite ... noisy ... in there couldn't ask



Anyway, after a couple of hours of tweaking, and the revelation that the baffle in my Remus Okami was rather strangling the thing... so out it came....and the result of the tweaking is shown in the Dyno graph below




The lower line is the Torque... and it is fairly constant at 90+ ftlb

the upper one is the BHP power curve, which is according to Geoff pretty good, and nice and linear....peaks at 148bhp (back wheel )

He told me the fuelling is now spot on...

So off I went for a little ride...... first impressions A LOT more responsive, excellent when overtaking, and just as smooth throughout the rev range.

I never wanted more power, but a consequence is an increase ( I believe standard is around 150 bhp at the crank)

The extra get up and go though is another matter... much nicer for quick overtakes..

All set now for a summer of Euro tours

[thetable]

Solid gains there. My US spec model with ~60k miles, with just a slip on, dynoed at 137RWHP.

[ABADV]

Originally Posted by nunzo

New to the C14 and really like the looks and sound of the V&H CS one. With the increased flow, do you need to remap(reflash) the ecu?

I have the black one on order!

[cognosticator]

Here is mine from an '09 C14, flies out, PCv, Muzzy slip on K&N filter and the map from fuel moto. I took it to a dyno tuner and he told me he could not improve on the map
http://www.pbase.com/cognosticator/i...36327178/large

[Bryn]

Originally Posted by cognosticator

Here is mine from an '09 C14, flies out, PCv, Muzzy slip on K&N filter and the map from fuel moto. I took it to a dyno tuner and he told me he could not improve on the map
http://www.pbase.com/cognosticator/i...36327178/large

Looks very similar to mine. .....

[LSGiant]

Does anybody have a before and after and then how many dollars they spent to get there?

Just wondering how many dollars per HP you guys are spending?

Or how many dollars for what looks like about a 10% improvement?

I am going to try to loose about 25 lbs and clean my saddle bags. :)

[thetable]

Originally Posted by LSGiant

Does anybody have a before and after and then how many dollars they spent to get there?

Go ahead, try to financially justify a motorcycle, let me know how that works out for you.

[motocopter]

Originally Posted by LSGiant

Does anybody have a before and after and then how many dollars they spent to get there?

Just wondering how many dollars per HP you guys are spending?

Or how many dollars for what looks like about a 10% improvement?

I am going to try to loose about 25 lbs and clean my saddle bags. :)

Originally Posted by thetable

Go ahead, try to financially justify a motorcycle, let me know how that works out for you.

^ ^ ^ ^

Seems like LSGiant's questions are reasonable. Financially justifying anything is individually subjective.

[FireIdiot]

Originally Posted by thetable

Go ahead, try to financially justify a motorcycle, let me know how that works out for you.

That's like justifying a boat. Or my wife buying shoes..... lol. Good luck

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