Moto Guzzi California 1400 - Page 13

Blakebird · 12-11-2012, 09:07 AM

there is no heat issue on Guzzis.... the journos always get bikes that are breaking in, and when they are breaking in they do get hot for the first few hundred miles....after that, you wouldn't notice it any more than you would on an airhead or oilhead.

heat=non-issue.

Lobby · 12-11-2012, 09:40 AM

I've never understood these "breaking in" heat comments.

Seems to me that if the bike gets 40 mpg when new, and it gets 40 mpg when broken in, it used the same amount of heat to power the bike, thus generating the same heat.

Is there some fouling of fins or carbon deposits somewhere that might account for this?

rocker59 · 12-11-2012, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blakebird

there is no heat issue on Guzzis.... heat=non-issue.

I'm closing in on 100,000 miles spread over six Guzzis.

Heat is not an issue that I've ever encountered.

rocker59 · 12-11-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DynaSport

Fair enough. Makes them a bit hard to buy though. Kinda hard to even decide if you want to buy.

If you're not sure, you're not ready.

mac62 · 12-14-2012, 05:43 AM

Epic want.

mentalfloss · 12-14-2012, 05:15 PM

I have close to 100,000 miles on Guzzi scoots from loop framed eldo,s to tonti framed Le Mans to my 09 stelvio (best bike I have ever owned!) small blocks and big blocks.....NEVER a heat problem and NEVER had a problem with my long legs hitting the cylinders..... popular Guzzi myths....

TexRivers · 12-15-2012, 03:09 PM

If you live within 500 miles of Houston, MPH is an outstanding dealer.

wannaklr · 01-02-2013, 11:16 AM

Is there an eta on retail pricing?

Lobby · 01-02-2013, 11:42 AM

Sssshhhh.

If people ask, they're gonna think a bunch are interested and raise the price.

Pretend you don't care. Like this:

wannaklr · 01-02-2013, 01:39 PM

rocker59 · 01-02-2013, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wannaklr

Is there an eta on retail pricing?

It's been quiet.

There is supposed to be a big unveil at the design center in California soon.

Lobby · 01-02-2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocker59

It's been quiet.

There is supposed to be a big unveil at the design center in California soon.

Do you have an "in" with them? If so, ask them to send some Demo bikes to Daytona Bike week.

rocker59 · 01-02-2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobby

Do you have an "in" with them? If so, ask them to send some Demo bikes to Daytona Bike week.

No "in", anymore.

The California 1400 California unveil was supposed to happen in December. I don't recall seeing it happen, so it's sorta like the MOTUS intro right now.

PGA would be smart to have some Cal 14s on display at Daytona. That's the market for this bike. Unfortunately, I don't know that they'll be that smart.

We can hope, though.

CajunRider · 01-03-2013, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobby

Pretend you don't care. Like this:

JohninVT · 01-04-2013, 05:32 AM

There can be heat issues with certain Guzzi's. Breva 1100's in particular can roast your feet because of the location of the catalytic convertor and overly lean mapping as delivered. The 1200 Sport had the cat in the muffler instead of under the engine so it didn't put out nearly as much heat. The only time it ever bothered me was in Florida when it was 100f and I was still running the stock map. After I installed the PC-V, Mistral exhaust and O2 Optimizer, it was like a completely different machine in terms of engine heat(and power).

The Breva 1100 is mentioned the most in terms of heat issues but a few people have removed the lower fairing on the early Norge and replaced it with the 1200 Sport sump guard to redirect heat(and also because early Norge fairing lowers are fragile).

12-11-2012, 09:07 AM	#181
Blakebird r-u-n-n-o-f-t Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Parker, CO Oddometer: 12,196	there is no heat issue on Guzzis.... the journos always get bikes that are breaking in, and when they are breaking in they do get hot for the first few hundred miles....after that, you wouldn't notice it any more than you would on an airhead or oilhead. heat=non-issue. __________________ '12 VFR 1200 . '13 TR650 Terra . IBA #11735 . 1968-present

12-11-2012, 09:40 AM	#182
Lobby Viel Spass, Vato! Joined: Nov 2003 Location: San Antonio, Tx Oddometer: 25,831	I've never understood these "breaking in" heat comments. Seems to me that if the bike gets 40 mpg when new, and it gets 40 mpg when broken in, it used the same amount of heat to power the bike, thus generating the same heat. Is there some fouling of fins or carbon deposits somewhere that might account for this? __________________ Gracie's Gold

12-14-2012, 05:43 AM	#185
mac62 One more thin gypsy thief Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Royston Vasey Oddometer: 4,617	Epic want. __________________ "Oh yeah? Well how about I just kick your ass?" -Mahatma Ghandi, 1946

01-02-2013, 11:16 AM	#188
wannaklr Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2006 Location: Back In Iowa. Quad Cities to be exactish.. Oddometer: 6,809	Is there an eta on retail pricing? __________________ Back in Iowa! I like my music like I like my women. Loud, angry and with bagpipes! From Scottie Boy "If you calculated the money spent versus time actually used, vaginas cost more per hour than the space shuttle."

01-02-2013, 11:42 AM	#189
Lobby Viel Spass, Vato! Joined: Nov 2003 Location: San Antonio, Tx Oddometer: 25,831	Sssshhhh. If people ask, they're gonna think a bunch are interested and raise the price. Pretend you don't care. Like this: __________________ Gracie's Gold

12-14-2012, 05:15 PM	#186
mentalfloss Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Outside Lawrence Kansas Oddometer: 286	I have close to 100,000 miles on Guzzi scoots from loop framed eldo,s to tonti framed Le Mans to my 09 stelvio (best bike I have ever owned!) small blocks and big blocks.....NEVER a heat problem and NEVER had a problem with my long legs hitting the cylinders..... popular Guzzi myths....

12-15-2012, 03:09 PM	#187
TexRivers TexRivers Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Sugar Land, TX Oddometer: 12	If you live within 500 miles of Houston, MPH is an outstanding dealer.

01-02-2013, 01:39 PM	#190
wannaklr Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2006 Location: Back In Iowa. Quad Cities to be exactish.. Oddometer: 6,809	__________________ Back in Iowa! I like my music like I like my women. Loud, angry and with bagpipes! From Scottie Boy "If you calculated the money spent versus time actually used, vaginas cost more per hour than the space shuttle."

01-04-2013, 05:32 AM	#195
JohninVT Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Vermont Oddometer: 351	There can be heat issues with certain Guzzi's. Breva 1100's in particular can roast your feet because of the location of the catalytic convertor and overly lean mapping as delivered. The 1200 Sport had the cat in the muffler instead of under the engine so it didn't put out nearly as much heat. The only time it ever bothered me was in Florida when it was 100f and I was still running the stock map. After I installed the PC-V, Mistral exhaust and O2 Optimizer, it was like a completely different machine in terms of engine heat(and power). The Breva 1100 is mentioned the most in terms of heat issues but a few people have removed the lower fairing on the early Norge and replaced it with the 1200 Sport sump guard to redirect heat(and also because early Norge fairing lowers are fragile).

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