The XL600 thread - Page 447

Homerb · 01-07-2013, 06:56 PM

Just a thought, does your fuel have ethanol in it? The metal used in some honda carbs from the eighties doesn't like ethanol, which can cause rapid deposits to form in the carb, as the ethanol reacts with the metal. Doesn't happen with all honda carbys just to confuse matters.

crobox · 01-07-2013, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrauberklaus

my Tank is selfmade with the original bottom part of the XL Tank

Klaus- I read this post a few weeks ago and it stuck in my head. I had to search to find it again....

I'm interested in this tank that you made with the bottom of a stock XL tank. (That's a really good idea!)
Do you have pictures of it? I would love to see.

Thanks,
Christian

12120 · 01-07-2013, 09:09 PM

RIcky stator is here, coil is her, new gasket for stator cover, now I just need some time.

I would be nice if it wasn't raining sideways to.

Anybody know if CR pegs will fit on the XL? I believe they are wider.

Chris

Sorry about your luck Pete. I think you outta just pull the carbs off and totally take apart and clean. Same goes for the fuel line/tank screen and tank. I you had that much crap in the carbs the need complete tear down. I would think. I hate the little mystery problems.

Stretchah · 01-08-2013, 02:03 PM

After my post regarding the fork upgrades, I just want to clarify a few things i've noticed that seem a little strange, Firstly am I right in thinking that standard xl600 forks are 39mm to 1985 and 41mm after?.

I was in the garage earlier and thought I'd have a closer look at mine and I noticed the tops are about 1 inch above the top yoke - is this normal for them to be set that way or are they normally flush with the top of the yoke?

I then noticed that they look like they've been machined from half way between the 2 yokes to the tops

So, I measured them and they are 43mm all the way up to where it looks machined and then 41mm. And from what Carter said the other day I am guessing a european top yoke has been used as its 41mm and has the ignition holder and screen/light holder brackets in the normal place.

Found a part no. KA4-831 on a little blue sticker on the right slider and have done a quick search and they seem to be coming up as from a CR250R or CR500R from 85-87 intrigued as to whether the machining is original or an alteration - most forks I've seen are normally the same diameter all the way up...

Heres a pic of the whole forks in case it helps... At the moment I'm thinking someone has done me a massive favour and may have already upgraded my forks

Let me know what you think? it may just be that I've misinterpreted what you guys have said and I've read and this is all normal

MentalGuru · 01-08-2013, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moparmanpete

Manual states they are to be flush with the top of the yoke.

My XL is an 87 and has 39mm forks

His bike is a Euro model so it's probably way cooler....

mcma111 · 01-08-2013, 03:49 PM

[QUOTE=Stretchah;20429659]

is this normal for them to be set that way or are they normally flush with the top of the yoke?

[QUOTE]

You see that line on the right fork tube about 1/4" from the top of the tube? THAT is what you line up to the top of the triple clamp.

MentalGuru · 01-08-2013, 04:34 PM

I suspect a fork swap has been done. Maybe CR forks and lower with them machined to fit the stock upper. Measure the tubes at both clamps (some cartidge forks neck down between the triple clamps). Measure the axle size to see if it is 15 or 17mm in size.

Just curious...

Stretchah · 01-08-2013, 11:29 PM

Cheers Guys and mental guru hopefully one day it'll be cooler, but, not in it's current state

I was thinking the tops should be pretty much flush. I'm guessing they may be a little longer and a previous owner did it like that to even the ride height as seems to be a standard rear shock. That seems to be good news though as wanted to raise the ride height, just got to get an XR rear shock now

It does drop from 43mm to 41mm on the yokes...if they are like that as standard it may be another upgrade option for us :) I'll measure the axle too especially as just bought a spare front wheel

Hopefully I can get it to fit without issues...

Moparmanpete, Glad to hear that you've sorted your carb problem, enjoy

Andy

12120 · 01-09-2013, 05:05 PM

Yay

Mine is also alive. Glad you got your's sorted Pete!

I did not get to go for a ride. My tags are expired, and the plate is from OR. I have the bike in my name, just did not get a WA plate on it cause the tags where still good on the old one.

I know bend the rules.

It was also raining cats and dogs and about 40 degrees.

New coil new ricky see what brakes next.

Chris

Dracus124 · 01-09-2013, 08:52 PM

I got a problem, I bought a new Volar o-ring chain. I guess you gotta use a special tool to the press the rivets on the masterlink and I can't afford the tool

What should I do? the damn tool is more than the chain!!

Can i use a master link from a regular o-ring chain??

Homerb · 01-09-2013, 09:02 PM

Im assuming the link is a rivet type master link? Id just peen the riverts over with a hammer. Or you could use a normal master link. I did on my last bike which was dynoed at 73rwhp and the link held fine.

Dracus124 · 01-10-2013, 12:49 PM

The bike shop cut me some slack, they installed the chain for free even though I didn't purchase it from them. The mechanic told me my chain is a cheap POS and should replace it soon. And then he told me that the XL isn't worth owning and I should sell it for a 650L. "once this thing blows, that's it! it'll be the same as having no bike" Sorry bro, this thing eats XRLs

. But according to him, the engines of the XL and the XRL have NOTHING in common.

I understand my bike looks like a junker, but it's not worthless, kinda pissed me off a little, but I kept my mouth shut since he was installing it for free.

brucifer · 01-10-2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracus124

The bike shop cut me some slack, they installed the chain for free even though I didn't purchase it from them. The mechanic told me my chain is a cheap POS and should replace it soon. And then he told me that the XL isn't worth owning and I should sell it for a 650L. "once this thing blows, that's it! it'll be the same as having no bike" Sorry bro, this thing eats XRLs

. But according to him, the engines of the XL and the XRL have NOTHING in common.

I understand my bike looks like a junker, but it's not worthless, kinda pissed me off a little, but I kept my mouth shut since he was installing it for free.

That mechanic sounds like a real winner...

Mike the Yank · 01-10-2013, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucifer

That mechanic sounds like a real winner...

I think that is WHINER

mcma111 · 01-10-2013, 02:59 PM

Opinions are like, well you know.

To each their own.

01-07-2013, 09:09 PM	#6693
12120 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2012 Location: SW Washington USA Oddometer: 143	Got parts RIcky stator is here, coil is her, new gasket for stator cover, now I just need some time. I would be nice if it wasn't raining sideways to. Anybody know if CR pegs will fit on the XL? I believe they are wider. Chris Sorry about your luck Pete. I think you outta just pull the carbs off and totally take apart and clean. Same goes for the fuel line/tank screen and tank. I you had that much crap in the carbs the need complete tear down. I would think. I hate the little mystery problems. __________________ If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tatics are wrong. '83 XL 600r 12120 screwed with this post 01-07-2013 at 09:42 PM

01-08-2013, 02:03 PM	#6694
Stretchah Adventurer Joined: Oct 2012 Location: London Oddometer: 52	After my post regarding the fork upgrades, I just want to clarify a few things i've noticed that seem a little strange, Firstly am I right in thinking that standard xl600 forks are 39mm to 1985 and 41mm after?. I was in the garage earlier and thought I'd have a closer look at mine and I noticed the tops are about 1 inch above the top yoke - is this normal for them to be set that way or are they normally flush with the top of the yoke? I then noticed that they look like they've been machined from half way between the 2 yokes to the tops So, I measured them and they are 43mm all the way up to where it looks machined and then 41mm. And from what Carter said the other day I am guessing a european top yoke has been used as its 41mm and has the ignition holder and screen/light holder brackets in the normal place. Found a part no. KA4-831 on a little blue sticker on the right slider and have done a quick search and they seem to be coming up as from a CR250R or CR500R from 85-87 intrigued as to whether the machining is original or an alteration - most forks I've seen are normally the same diameter all the way up... Heres a pic of the whole forks in case it helps... At the moment I'm thinking someone has done me a massive favour and may have already upgraded my forks Let me know what you think? it may just be that I've misinterpreted what you guys have said and I've read and this is all normal __________________ ____________________ 84 Harris Magnum 2 84 XL600R 85 Vespa PK135 Stretchah screwed with this post 01-08-2013 at 02:27 PM

01-08-2013, 03:49 PM	#6696
mcma111 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 7,981	[QUOTE=Stretchah;20429659] is this normal for them to be set that way or are they normally flush with the top of the yoke? [QUOTE] You see that line on the right fork tube about 1/4" from the top of the tube? THAT is what you line up to the top of the triple clamp. __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

01-08-2013, 04:34 PM	#6697
MentalGuru Crazy Diamond Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Mental Ward Oddometer: 726	I suspect a fork swap has been done. Maybe CR forks and lower with them machined to fit the stock upper. Measure the tubes at both clamps (some cartidge forks neck down between the triple clamps). Measure the axle size to see if it is 15 or 17mm in size. Just curious... __________________ Praise the Lord!!! I have seen the light!!! He has shown me the promised land!!! TT for now...

01-08-2013, 11:29 PM	#6698
Stretchah Adventurer Joined: Oct 2012 Location: London Oddometer: 52	Cheers Guys and mental guru hopefully one day it'll be cooler, but, not in it's current state I was thinking the tops should be pretty much flush. I'm guessing they may be a little longer and a previous owner did it like that to even the ride height as seems to be a standard rear shock. That seems to be good news though as wanted to raise the ride height, just got to get an XR rear shock now It does drop from 43mm to 41mm on the yokes...if they are like that as standard it may be another upgrade option for us :) I'll measure the axle too especially as just bought a spare front wheel Hopefully I can get it to fit without issues... Moparmanpete, Glad to hear that you've sorted your carb problem, enjoy Andy __________________ ____________________ 84 Harris Magnum 2 84 XL600R 85 Vespa PK135 Stretchah screwed with this post 01-08-2013 at 11:39 PM

01-07-2013, 06:56 PM	#6691
Homerb Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Toukley NSW Australia Oddometer: 204	Just a thought, does your fuel have ethanol in it? The metal used in some honda carbs from the eighties doesn't like ethanol, which can cause rapid deposits to form in the carb, as the ethanol reacts with the metal. Doesn't happen with all honda carbys just to confuse matters.

01-09-2013, 05:05 PM	#6699
12120 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2012 Location: SW Washington USA Oddometer: 143	Ditto its alive Yay Mine is also alive. Glad you got your's sorted Pete! I did not get to go for a ride. My tags are expired, and the plate is from OR. I have the bike in my name, just did not get a WA plate on it cause the tags where still good on the old one. I know bend the rules. It was also raining cats and dogs and about 40 degrees. New coil new ricky see what brakes next. Chris __________________ If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tatics are wrong. '83 XL 600r

01-09-2013, 08:52 PM	#6700
Dracus124 SAND EATER! Joined: Dec 2011 Location: Twentynine Palms Oddometer: 476	I got a problem, I bought a new Volar o-ring chain. I guess you gotta use a special tool to the press the rivets on the masterlink and I can't afford the tool What should I do? the damn tool is more than the chain!! Can i use a master link from a regular o-ring chain?? __________________ '83 Honda XL600R valve seat RIDE RED!

01-09-2013, 09:02 PM	#6701
Homerb Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Toukley NSW Australia Oddometer: 204	Im assuming the link is a rivet type master link? Id just peen the riverts over with a hammer. Or you could use a normal master link. I did on my last bike which was dynoed at 73rwhp and the link held fine.

01-10-2013, 12:49 PM	#6702
Dracus124 SAND EATER! Joined: Dec 2011 Location: Twentynine Palms Oddometer: 476	The bike shop cut me some slack, they installed the chain for free even though I didn't purchase it from them. The mechanic told me my chain is a cheap POS and should replace it soon. And then he told me that the XL isn't worth owning and I should sell it for a 650L. "once this thing blows, that's it! it'll be the same as having no bike" Sorry bro, this thing eats XRLs . But according to him, the engines of the XL and the XRL have NOTHING in common. I understand my bike looks like a junker, but it's not worthless, kinda pissed me off a little, but I kept my mouth shut since he was installing it for free. __________________ '83 Honda XL600R valve seat RIDE RED!

01-10-2013, 02:59 PM	#6705
mcma111 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 7,981	Opinions are like, well you know. To each their own. __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

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