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Old 01-09-2013, 02:53 AM   #4651
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.... and Baule is in 55th overall.. no reason to stop waving the maple leaf here folks. If Beaule breaks top 50 I'll be celebrating with a special Dakar poutine at lunch..
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Yup! Pat Beaulé was David Bensadoun's co-driver for Aldo Racing in the Dakar 2012 where they placed 39th, a very respectable finish for a 1st time try. They were the first Canadian car to ever finish a Dakar race. Yvan Turcotte, also from Quebec, was one of their mechanics that year.

This year, Beaulé and Turcotte are both back with the support of Aldo Racing but in the pilot seat this time.

Pat on his KTM 450 RR #154 has moved up from 86th to 52nd over the first 4 stages.

Yvan driving MAN truck #568 was 47th yesterday and has moved up from 72nd to 56th overall.

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Old 01-09-2013, 02:53 AM   #4652
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Is this some kind of conspiracy? Anyone here involved with this?



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Old 01-09-2013, 02:58 AM   #4653
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I am getting pretty pissed off with the ASO.
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1. Tracking systems are made basically for safety and to enforce fair play.

2. Live coverage with video and photos in a race so big in such remote places, would be logistics nightmare and definitely with a cost.

3. Would you pay for it?? ASO does nothing without a good income out of everything.

I am afraid that this virtual stadium would get CCRR in the same future as WRC
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:11 AM   #4654
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:14 AM   #4655
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47 pages caught up on - back on the F5hose for the rest of the working day
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:15 AM   #4656
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1. Tracking systems are made basically for safety and to enforce fair play.

2. Live coverage with video and photos in a race so big in such remote places, would be logistics nightmare and definitely with a cost.

3. Would you pay for it?? ASO does nothing without a good income out of everything.

I am afraid that this virtual stadium would get CCRR in the same future as WRC
i think the actual video footage and coverage has been pretty good this year. they just need a better way of tracking the riders live.... i can't see how having live or almost live tracking on a map will really give the teams any more of an advantage than they have now - everyone seems to know when people are off track or stopped straight away anyway... plus as long as they can't communicate to the riders then it doesn't matter if the bivouac knows they're off track.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:17 AM   #4657
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Iritrack was online in Moroccos, 6 minute interval IIRC, also in the current Africa Eco Race.
We had a similar system (for public viewing) in Serres, and that was "broadcast" with a 15 minute delay, to avoid anyone whipping out their phone and calling their mate if lost on the course... I'm pretty sure you can adjust the position relay delay by even more if one so wishes
Yes, but what about the cars, starting later on the same stage? Writing code to aggregate all positions of the bikes and making it into a GPS track and then streaming this to a small GPS/smartphone in a co-driver's hand is too easy.

I heard about some of the car teams in the Tuareg having an enormous amount of data at their disposal, who don't care about the rules at all. This would be a deal maker/breaker in the hands of the factory car teams.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:17 AM   #4658
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:17 AM   #4659
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1. Tracking systems are made basically for safety and to enforce fair play.

2. Live coverage with video and photos in a race so big in such remote places, would be logistics nightmare and definitely with a cost.

3. Would you pay for it?? ASO does nothing without a good income out of everything.

I am afraid that this virtual stadium would get CCRR in the same future as WRC
As I posted before: The sponsors pay for this event, not the damn ASO. They just decide how they're gonna spend the money.

Think like a sponsor for a moment. I want maximum exposure for my brand, for my dollars spent.

Using the technology already in place to greatly enhance the viewing, and by extension the viewership, and is something that I already am paying for them to have (iritrack), is only right, don't you think?

We're not talking about re-inventing the wheel here folks, just allow the fans (who ultimately pay for this) a reasonable level of access to existing facets of the entertainment.

The ASO aren't a charity, I know. Business culture is not known for its altruism. Here's a chance for them to take their product to more viewers, and they're treating the internet like Dorna does: As the enemy.

For how many years now have when been hacking on the ASO for their lack of change when it comes to anything we have access to. How many times have competitors commented here that we still know way more than them in the bivouac?

Thing is, the F5 crew show them what is possible, and find a way to do it.

The ASO just keeps doing things the way they've always done them, and we get to bleat about it.

Status quo.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:18 AM   #4660
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Show us your F5 crib, suck on that Chicherit !!
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:24 AM   #4661
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They came back at me with a "revised" offer, which I am considering....whilst also applying for new jobs
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:26 AM   #4663
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They came back at me with a "revised" offer, which I am considering....whilst also applying for new jobs
Yeah, poisoned well.

Maybe this was their way of replacing you without having to pay out, though.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:27 AM   #4664
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Yes, but what about the cars, starting later on the same stage? Writing code to aggregate all positions of the bikes and making it into a GPS track and then streaming this to a small GPS/smartphone in a co-driver's hand is too easy.

I heard about some of the car teams in the Tuareg having an enormous amount of data at their disposal, who don't care about the rules at all. This would be a deal maker/breaker in the hands of the factory car teams.
well how about just a fancy graphic showing the bikes/cars/trucks progress along a linear representation of the special?

or even just an uprated tracker showing, accurately, how far from the next waypoint the riders are? that would certainly beat the current nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, 3 waypoint dump of info process we seem to be getting now...

seems to me like the ASOles haven't updated the way they present the Dakar for the last 4 years or so
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:30 AM   #4665
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well how about just a fancy graphic showing the bikes/cars/trucks progress along a linear representation of the special?

or even just an uprated tracker showing, accurately, how far from the next waypoint the riders are? that would certainly beat the current nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, 3 waypoint dump of info process we seem to be getting now...

seems to me like the ASOles haven't updated the way they present the Dakar for the last 4 years or so
That would be great. Wouldn't show us people completely screwing up the navigation (like we saw in Morocco), but way better than the current system.
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