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Old 01-09-2013, 03:35 AM   #4666
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Yes, but what about the cars, starting later on the same stage? Writing code to aggregate all positions of the bikes and making it into a GPS track and then streaming this to a small GPS/smartphone in a co-driver's hand is too easy.

I heard about some of the car teams in the Tuareg having an enormous amount of data at their disposal, who don't care about the rules at all. This would be a deal maker/breaker in the hands of the factory car teams.
Someone tapped into a feed from Tunisia perhaps that gave the iriTrack position in 30 second updates if I am not mistaken, incredibly accurate. As much as I would like it for tracking, every team that could afford it would have teams of virtual spotters telling of every bump, erg, dune, and men with mustaches. I would be great to see but vastly abused. The vagueness of the ASO system is completely intentional. They have the accuracy we want, I've seen it in screenshots and video, they just don't broadcast it.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:35 AM   #4667
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Hey everyone.
Thought I'd better pop in and say that or people would think I'm actually "in" the Dakar this year. My F5hose contribution has to be very light this year for multiple reasons ... but I'll make up for it in the 2014 Dakar. In the mean time I have to check in here occasionally for an update and be happy with that.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:36 AM   #4668
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Just to clarify - The Nissan is one of Desert Rose's ex vehicles, but Desert Rose themselves weren't actually doing the support this year. The truck was sold to the team providing assistance to Paul Jay, and is being driven by Charles Blois who was a sponsor for Tamsin Jones in 2010 and continues to support Craig Bounds (for those that don't know, Tamsin and Craig are a couple)...

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Old 01-09-2013, 03:58 AM   #4669
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did we get/hear the reasoning behind the different routes for cars and bikes today?
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:00 AM   #4670
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Yes, but what about the cars, starting later on the same stage? Writing code to aggregate all positions of the bikes and making it into a GPS track and then streaming this to a small GPS/smartphone in a co-driver's hand is too easy.

I heard about some of the car teams in the Tuareg having an enormous amount of data at their disposal, who don't care about the rules at all. This would be a deal maker/breaker in the hands of the factory car teams.



Great to see that picture from Tuareg Rally,with Chris Porter(left) from Mojo Suspension,that was a wild day,we already had one rider,our friend Mick Tompkinson,on the floor with a broken vertebrae,when Kent face planted over the dune,and when he came to,all he could say was"my name is Kent,I am a blacksmith"!!!!
He was convinced he was OK to ride,and kept trying to get back on his bike,so we took his boots off and put them at the top of the next dune!!That slowed him up,riding barefoot with rally pegs is not an option........

Back to the live tracking,when I was talking to technical people at Heroes Legend scrutineering,the problem with live sattelite tracking is that the competitors could phone back to base(or even view it through their own 3g phone)to get their position off-course,and then direct themselves back on course.
IMHO the whole point of a rally is the fact that it is the riders/drivers responsibility to stay on course,and when they are off course,to work out how to get back on using the navigational aids on the bike/car.Not to phone up and get directed in like some Sega video game.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:00 AM   #4671
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in the pre-event coverage,(how to build a road book or something) Mr racing director thought it would be good.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:01 AM   #4672
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Wow.

0700 race time, and one post in the last half hour.

Did everyone get raptured and I got left behind?
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:03 AM   #4673
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Oops.

Not alone.

Dammit.

All your 450RR's were mine there, for a minute...
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:07 AM   #4674
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Back to the live tracking,when I was talking to technical people at Heroes Legend scrutineering,the problem with live sattelite tracking is that the competitors could phone back to base(or even view it through their own 3g phone)to get their position off-course,and then direct themselves back on course.
IMHO the whole point of a rally is the fact that it is the riders/drivers responsibility to stay on course,and when they are off course,to work out how to get back on using the navigational aids on the bike/car.Not to phone up and get directed in like some Sega video game.
which is why something simple that just showed live distance from/to waypoints would be good - not much help for the riders but you would be able to see who was stopped, who was riding with who etc
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:08 AM   #4675
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:09 AM   #4676
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in the TV coverage threat for those that have/want XBMC and navi-X






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Old 01-09-2013, 04:12 AM   #4677
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:19 AM   #4678
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Yeah, poisoned well.

Maybe this was their way of replacing you without having to pay out, though.
Quite possibly, it had crossed my mind - oh well, their loss
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:29 AM   #4680
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Are the bikes leaving the bivvy now?
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