Oil recommendation 2011 F800GS - Page 3

Cortez · 01-08-2013, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murph76

++++++++1 This is were its at...........12000 miles without a change and ill bet that shit still looks brand new

If it looks like new after that many miles then it's not doing it's job
of "cleaning" up the engine properly.

Cortez · 01-08-2013, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman.peter

OK, but this oil- Amsoil can not be obtained in the EU.
Does anyone know which oil is filled into a container of BMW Motorrad High Performance Öl.

It's very likely you don't wanna know.

Steveman · 01-08-2013, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cortez

If it looks like new after that many miles then it's not doing it's job
of "cleaning" up the engine properly.

+1 that is definitely true!

Cheers Steve

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fireman.peter · 01-08-2013, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cortez

It's very likely you don't wanna know.

Do you think that I would be disappointed?

steveWFL · 01-08-2013, 11:56 AM

Oil thread FTW

Cortez · 01-08-2013, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman.peter

Do you think that I would be disappointed?

It's usually something you'd never think
was good enough.

Let us know if you DO find out. :)

fireman.peter · 01-09-2013, 09:10 AM

OK, I will.

murph76 · 01-12-2013, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cortez

If it looks like new after that many miles then it's not doing it's job
of "cleaning" up the engine properly.

Or the air filters doing its job.?!

F800ekelley · 01-12-2013, 08:16 PM

My dealer is telling me to run non synthetic oil first 8000 miles is this correct has any one had issues with valvoline 4stroke non synthetic oil?

fireman.peter · 01-13-2013, 02:49 AM

I asked BMW in Germany,
what oil is recommended by the motorcycle manufacturer.
I received the following response:

Hi Peter,

oil recommendations were sometimes updated / extended.

In general please use an oil according to the owner’s manual!

Important here: a few weeks ago we also released the 15W-50 (“BMW High Performance Oil”) for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders.
BMW has not released fully synthetic oils for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders!

Best regards

Cortez · 01-13-2013, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman.peter

I asked BMW in Germany,
what oil is recommended by the motorcycle manufacturer.
I received the following response:

Hi Peter,

oil recommendations were sometimes updated / extended.

In general please use an oil according to the owner’s manual!

Important here: a few weeks ago we also released the 15W-50 (“BMW High Performance Oil”) for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders.
BMW has not released fully synthetic oils for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders!

Best regards

The translation of that is:

"We just made a new contract with the lowest bidder, and we have a new
oil for you, different box and label from the original manufacturer but marked
up at least 4 times."

I'd just stick with the 15W-50 recommendation and use any reputable
brand.

Steveman · 01-15-2013, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murph76

Or the air filters doing its job.?!

commonly theres no coherence between airfilter and color of oil if the airfilter is installed and in acceptable condition.
that the oil gets black shows that it keeps the dirt floating instead leaving it in your oil pan.

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Steveman · 01-15-2013, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cortez

The translation of that is:

"We just made a new contract with the lowest bidder, and we have a new
oil for you, different box and label from the original manufacturer but marked
up at least 4 times."

I'd just stick with the 15W-50 recommendation and use any reputable
brand.

Correct, fully agree. My mate uses 15/60 and 10/60 fully sinthetic oil since first service and he gives a shit about what BMW says, the engine sounds good after over 66.000kms, all it needed was a new alternator...which had of course nothing to do with the oil...

Cheers Steve

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malloy · 01-26-2013, 06:40 AM

Understood that 15W-50 is heavier than 10W-40. But in reality will this really make a difference? I notice A&S's oil change kit for the F800 & F650 (twins) still shows 10W-40. They do have a "super synthetic" BMW oil in 15W-50 @ $45.00/gal. "recommended for all BMW motorcycles after 1970." in spite of what BMW Germany told fireman.peter above ("BMW has not released fully synthetic oils for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders!"). A&S also recommends change the oil filer (& oil persumably) every 3,000 miles while the owner's manual says every 6,000 miles.

So, what's up with all of this? Discuss

Oh boy, another oil thread

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F800ekelley · 01-26-2013, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malloy

Understood that 15W-50 is heavier than 10W-40. But in reality will this really make a difference? I notice A&S's oil change kit for the F800 & F650 (twins) still shows 10W-40. They do have a "super synthetic" BMW oil in 15W-50 @ $45.00/gal. "recommended for all BMW motorcycles after 1970." in spite of what BMW Germany told fireman.peter above ("BMW has not released fully synthetic oils for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders!"). A&S also recommends change the oil filer (& oil persumably) every 3,000 miles while the owner's manual says every 6,000 miles.

So, what's up with all of this? Discuss

Oh boy, another oil thread

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Hahah agree this has turned itno an oil thread i am taking it there is a saying "to keep ur friends dont talk about. Religionpolitics or oil"

Thanks for the input do u think than for my F800gs its fine to run a standard conv oil instead of speading more for synthetic? Also i change every 2000 but good to know i coullld go longer i just do alot of offroad so somehow my oil gets dirty fast and in the az heat i am looking for an oil to run in 100plus degree temps for riding

01-08-2013, 11:56 AM	#35
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01-09-2013, 09:10 AM	#37
fireman.peter Adventurer Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Slovenia, EU Oddometer: 14	OK, I will. __________________ F800 GS- 30 years GS

01-13-2013, 02:49 AM	#40
fireman.peter Adventurer Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Slovenia, EU Oddometer: 14	I asked BMW in Germany, what oil is recommended by the motorcycle manufacturer. I received the following response: Hi Peter, oil recommendations were sometimes updated / extended. In general please use an oil according to the owner’s manual! Important here: a few weeks ago we also released the 15W-50 (“BMW High Performance Oil”) for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders. BMW has not released fully synthetic oils for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders! Best regards __________________ F800 GS- 30 years GS

01-26-2013, 06:40 AM	#44
malloy Studly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2006 Location: THE FOOTHILLS Oddometer: 663	Pray Tell Understood that 15W-50 is heavier than 10W-40. But in reality will this really make a difference? I notice A&S's oil change kit for the F800 & F650 (twins) still shows 10W-40. They do have a "super synthetic" BMW oil in 15W-50 @ $45.00/gal. "recommended for all BMW motorcycles after 1970." in spite of what BMW Germany told fireman.peter above ("BMW has not released fully synthetic oils for the 800cm-ROTAX-2-Cylinders!"). A&S also recommends change the oil filer (& oil persumably) every 3,000 miles while the owner's manual says every 6,000 miles. So, what's up with all of this? Discuss Oh boy, another oil thread. __________________ F650GS (Build Date 11/11)

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01-12-2013, 08:16 PM	#39
F800ekelley Adventurer Joined: Sep 2012 Location: valley of the sun Oddometer: 86	My dealer is telling me to run non synthetic oil first 8000 miles is this correct has any one had issues with valvoline 4stroke non synthetic oil?