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Old 01-10-2013, 02:45 AM   #5761
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There are rumors on twitter about a fatal accident involving an assistance vehicle. I won't post it on Twitter yet as it still unconfirmed.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:46 AM   #5762
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There are rumors on twitter about a fatal accident involving an assistance vehicle. I won't post it on Twitter yet as it still unconfirmed.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:46 AM   #5763
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Weird. Over here Barreda reseeded to 42nd (not very generous compared to other reseedings), but Fish not reseeded and listed as starting in 141st

Politics or just a screw up?
Not yellow sticker/number...
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:47 AM   #5764
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Weird. Over here Barreda reseeded to 42nd (not very generous compared to other reseedings), but Fish not reseeded and listed as starting in 141st

Politics or just a screw up?
Mischa lists the same.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:48 AM   #5765
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Weird. Over here Barreda reseeded to 42nd (not very generous compared to other reseedings), but Fish not reseeded and listed as starting in 141st

Politics or just a screw up?
same on mischa's site.... seems a bit low for barreda considering that it's 10 places adrift of where JC was getting re-seeded to....

fish must fall outside of the elite squad.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:49 AM   #5766
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Holy mother of God .. Not good news, spinal compression is usually a no go ...

That's an understatement.
It's extremely risky to continue in that condition. One doesn't even have to crash to worsen the injury.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:49 AM   #5767
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There are rumors on twitter about a fatal accident involving an assistance vehicle. I won't post it on Twitter yet as it still unconfirmed.
let's hope they are just rumours...
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:50 AM   #5768
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Not yellow sticker/number...
So will Botturi have to wait for Joan, or is he given the green light as the #1 SpeedBrain rider in 7th overall?...

I just realised Gonk is overall 16th, Barreda 59th
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:56 AM   #5769
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Source: http://www.grandepremio.com.br/rali/...eridos-no-peru

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A serious accident involving a vehicle in support of the Dakar Rally left two dead and seven wounded late on Wednesday (9) in Peru, 10 kilometers from the border with Chile.

A taxi carrying six people crashed in the front support vehicle, carrying three people. A second taxi with four passengers, flipped several times in an attempt to avoid the collision.Two of the first taxi passengers, including the driver, died in the accident and seven other people - four Peruvians and three passengers in the vehicle support - were injured and were taken to hospitals in Tacna, Peru.

The Peruvian authorities coordinated the rescue operation, which involved three local ambulances, a fire engine and several police officers, with the support of the Dakar team, which sent two ambulances and two security vehicles to the site.*The Peruvian authorities have started investigations into the causes of the accident.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:57 AM   #5770
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So will Botturi have to wait for Joan, or is he given the green light as the #1 SpeedBrain rider in 7th overall?...

I just realised Gonk is overall 16th, Barreda 59th
surely speedbrain will realise barreda is a lost cause for the title.. if he breaks down he can wait for the aussie mechanic to catch up with him... he should really be carrying the water for botturi now...
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:58 AM   #5771
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A serious accident involving a vehicle in support of the Dakar Rally left two dead and seven wounded late on Wednesday (9) in Peru, 10 kilometers from the border with Chile.

A taxi carrying six people crashed in the front support vehicle, carrying three people. A second taxi with four passengers, flipped several times in an attempt to avoid the collision.Two of the first taxi passengers, including the driver, died in the accident and seven other people - four Peruvians and three passengers in the vehicle support - were injured and were taken to hospitals in Tacna, Peru.

The Peruvian authorities coordinated the rescue operation, which involved three local ambulances, a fire engine and several police officers, with the support of the Dakar team, which sent two ambulances and two security vehicles to the site.*The Peruvian authorities have started investigations into the causes of the accident.
jeeesus....
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he should really be carrying the water for botturi now...
Hope so, Botturi is/was my favorite on that team (excluding Quinn). He is showing exceptional steadiness & restraint, consistently in the top 10. Top rookie in '12, hope he shines even more this year
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:00 AM   #5773
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:03 AM   #5774
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A taxi carrying six people crashed in the front support vehicle, carrying three people. A second taxi with four passengers, flipped several times in an attempt to avoid the collision.Two of the first taxi passengers, including the driver, died in the accident and seven other people - four Peruvians and three passengers in the vehicle support - were injured and were taken to hospitals in Tacna, Peru.
Terrible news. RIP
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:04 AM   #5775
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He does not say, but Cyril Despres almost regret Marc Coma is not on this Dakar. "I'm not worried, he assures. I feel good physically and now I'm managing. I do not run 100% of my ability." An excellent tactical for an elimination race. But they are still likely to be in the game ...
There seem to be lots of comments about CdP's relatively slow pace. I can't help but think of an interview I heard with Rick Mears (multiple Indy 500 winner) when he talked about managing risk in a long race.

He would basically half-life the entire race. For the first half he would only push as much as necessary to maintain within reach of the leaders (IIRC, he only wanted to be on the lead lap).

The second half was broken into quarters. The first quarter he would push hard enough to high up on the board (say 10th).

The second quarter was broken into eighths. The first eighth he would push harder, and begin taking more risks to get onto the podium. If he found himself in 1st by the end of the that eighth, he would then manage his lead.

If still behind, the final eighth was divided into sixteenths, and he would increase his pace again. Begin taking more risk. If at the end of that he was still not in the lead he would start pushing flat out, maxiumum attack.

Mears' whole point of this is that racing is about managing risk to the exent that it can be managed. Pushing hard from the start to the finish is simply not possible -and he was only talking about 500 miles on pavement, or 1000 in Baja - nothing near the race distance of Dakar. You cannot take those kinds of risks for the entire race and reasonably expect to make it to the finish line. Think of it as the anit-Robby strategy. Gordon is kind of known for having great speed, but breaking his toys, or crashing, or both. It seems from the outside that Robbie is pushing too hard for too long and the law of averages bites him.

So why on Earth would CdP do anything to risk his rallye so early on? He's within touch of his challengers. He can pull the cork seemingly at will and clip 10 minutes off the entire field except Coma (who's out). There's simply no upside for Cyril to run maximum attack at this point.

We will probably not start to see Cyril take big bites out of people until after the rest day.
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